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Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
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Post: #61
RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 07:16 AM)
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OP is wrong.

court refused cert., i.e., to hear the case

it did not rule like OP claims

it can't of it does not hear the case.
The attitude and ruling of the US Supreme Court seems unconstitutional to me according to this :

"We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights"
the right of trespass is not a natural right nor constitutional right, dumbass.
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Post: #62
RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
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The attitude and ruling of the US Supreme Court seems unconstitutional to me according to this :

"We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights"
the right of trespass is not a natural right nor constitutional right, dumbass.
Let's say for argument that the Right of Trespass IS a natural right and is inalienable and inherrent. Thus the Right of Trespass is assigned by birth by God or Nature and is inalienable and cannot be taken away.

Regardless, the Federal government is not duty bound to protect that illegal alien's Right of Trespass. Why? They are not citizens and they broke innumerable laws as that Right of Trespass is protected for citizens by definition of the contract between citizens and the government.
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Post: #63
RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 06:38 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 05:38 AM)
Liberalism: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights...."

Conservativism: "You have no rights unless you have citizenship status. The government gives you your rights."

Errr, wrong.

Liberals in general have not supported the 2nd Amendment since the 70's.

I made it abundantly clear that everyone has natural rights, but these are defined by the Constitution in general and in the first ten of Bill of Rights. However they are defined for citizens and there isn't any structure for protection for illegal aliens because they are breaking the law and.not citizens.

f*#k the Second Amendment. The Constitution is not infallible, and there are certain parts of it that are faulty, like the 2A.

Here's why. The 2A, which is that firearms ownership is a right, is based on the premise that firearms are a population's only way to protect rights. The corollary, then, is that if the premise can be shown false, the 2A is not a right.

The question is: Do firearms safeguard rights?

The answer is: No.

Did firearms prevent the US military during WW2 from detaining thousands of families just because those families happened to be of Italian and Japanese ancestry? Did firearms stop the Adams Administration from signing the Sedition Act, which made it a felony to publish negative things about the government? Do firearms prevent the NSA from continuously violating your Fourth Amendment right against unwarranted searches?

Regarding the firearm's mythical ability to prevent tyranny, can you name one instance where this actually happened? In Hussein's Iraq, you couldn't walk down the street without seeing teenage boys carrying loaded AK47s. Didn't stop Hussein from terrorizing his own people. Tyranny has been stopped without firearms, however. Most recently, the Arab Spring began when people toppled the Tunisian dictator through public protest--all without a single shot fired.

Can you accept that the Constitution is not a magical infallible document? And that the Founding Fathers, for all their wisdom and intelligence, lacked our hindsight? And that eighteenth-century political theory isn't the final word on how we should live and operate?
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Post: #64
RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-21-2017 05:59 AM)
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Errr, wrong.

Liberals in general have not supported the 2nd Amendment since the 70's.

I made it abundantly clear that everyone has natural rights, but these are defined by the Constitution in general and in the first ten of Bill of Rights. However they are defined for citizens and there isn't any structure for protection for illegal aliens because they are breaking the law and.not citizens.

f*#k the Second Amendment. The Constitution is not infallible, and there are certain parts of it that are faulty, like the 2A.

Here's why. The 2A, which is that firearms ownership is a right, is based on the premise that firearms are a population's only way to protect rights. The corollary, then, is that if the premise can be shown false, the 2A is not a right.

The question is: Do firearms safeguard rights?

The answer is: No.

Did firearms prevent the US military during WW2 from detaining thousands of families just because those families happened to be of Italian and Japanese ancestry? Did firearms stop the Adams Administration from signing the Sedition Act, which made it a felony to publish negative things about the government? Do firearms prevent the NSA from continuously violating your Fourth Amendment right against unwarranted searches?

Regarding the firearm's mythical ability to prevent tyranny, can you name one instance where this actually happened? In Hussein's Iraq, you couldn't walk down the street without seeing teenage boys carrying loaded AK47s. Didn't stop Hussein from terrorizing his own people. Tyranny has been stopped without firearms, however. Most recently, the Arab Spring began when people toppled the Tunisian dictator through public protest--all without a single shot fired.

Can you accept that the Constitution is not a magical infallible document? And that the Founding Fathers, for all their wisdom and intelligence, lacked our hindsight? And that eighteenth-century political theory isn't the final word on how we should live and operate?

While I can tell you have passionate beliefs, they are irrelevant.

The 2nd Amendment is an established natural right that has been upheld over and over by the Supreme Court.

To change it would require a Constitutional Amendment. There is an arduous and lengthy process to repeal the existing Second Amendment. There is zero chance of repeal.





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Post: #65
RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
The ghost of capn´crunch  Wrote: (04-20-2017 07:32 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 07:28 AM)
Donald Trump is in the White House and we have not yet been killed by Yellowstone or methane.

You're 0 for 3 thus far, bro. Might want to lay off picking on the old kettle. chuckle

are some special type of dumb?
"Art", not are.

Style is everything, man.
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Post: #66
RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 07:40 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 07:29 AM)
We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Illegal entry to the US seems to be missing from the official version.

Fekkin liberals Jptdknpa

Bump Are the morons reading this?

Do you all know what certain means? It means life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You are free to believe these rights in your own country, as long as your government says so. If they don't then change your own government!

Jhikpghf
Nobody had a response, like dealing with children shills. They are so predictable chuckle
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Post: #67
RE: Supreme Court Says, Illegal Aliens Don't Have Constitutional Rights, Imagine That
The ghost of capn´crunch  Wrote: (04-20-2017 06:25 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-20-2017 05:33 PM)
You dont get to make the rules for who has credibility or not. Register is you want to. Or dont. Your little blue name just means 1) you can be the attention whore youve always wanted to be, and 2) you'll be easier to identify by various govt agencies. In short, you are a ore recognizable fucktard than the other fucktards.

it is common sense but you don´t have any,

for all we know you could be a govt. shill like the dozens that visit this board everyday,

so being an ac is zero around here,

no one trusts your ass,

until you register that is,

So wait a sec, Ghost. Are you saying when one registers here Disturbed does a background check to see if the registered is a govt shill or not, and then denies blue names to those who are found guilty of working for the NSA/CIA/TSA/IRS?

Fark, man, this site is really intense! Lmao
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