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In Russia it's officially illegal to be a Jehovah's Witness
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Post: #16
RE: In Russia it's officially illegal to be a Jehovah's Witness
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Well, here in America, it is officially illegal to discriminate against Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Post: #17
RE: In Russia it's officially illegal to be a Jehovah's Witness
Uppity Me  Wrote: (04-21-2017 04:59 AM)
they believe in personal freedom there



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Post: #18
RE: In Russia it's officially illegal to be a Jehovah's Witness
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-21-2017 06:56 AM)
Well, here in America, it is officially illegal to discriminate against Jehovah's Witnesses.

I'll give you points for the variation on the theme. I at least admire the technique.

But, simply put, in response to your post I confidently say: good.

"You're going straight to hell."

-Lin-Manuel Miranda, in a courageous, justified tweet to Donald Trump, President of the United States of America, in the wake of his foul attack on the mayor of a city devastated by a natural disaster where American citizens are dying
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RE: In Russia it's officially illegal to be a Jehovah's Witness
Sing-IllSway  Wrote: (04-21-2017 06:55 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-21-2017 06:45 AM)
Huh. Everyone here was loving Russia and Putin five minutes ago. Lol.

I've never understood why Russia is so "popular" with certain factions of this forum.

Most of them are the same people who run around with their fingers in their hair hyper-ventilating over what they perceive to be "fake news" in the American press.

Meanwhile Russia HAS actually combined their government and popular news broadcasting into an entity known as RT and none of them seem to give a sh*t.

lol...seriously, to me, it's one of the true mysteries of this place.

Plus, add in Russia's blatant, shameless persecution of their LGBT-citizens and it's like, lol...what the hell is wrong with you people?

I'm not sure if many users of this forum simply don't know these things about Russia. Or they know but don't care. Or they think these things are "fake news" because they're reported in the "msm". Or whatever. Who knows.

f*ckin' Russia...

It's all actually a big part of the reason I'm not on this forum regularly anymore. I only post about one night a week now because, frankly, it gets boring here. Being knee-deep in fundamentalist ideologues gets old fast.

That's because many of these people are shills who are paid to say certain things online to help paint a picture that helps to sell an official narrative and false version of history that is being written as we speak, to help make it seem like a reality because people who were being paid were parroting it in the ether.
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04-21-2017 07:04 AM

 



Post: #20
RE: In Russia it's officially illegal to be a Jehovah's Witness
I was posting about this 15 years ago. It has been going on a while.
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04-21-2017 08:46 AM

 



Post: #21
RE: In Russia it's officially illegal to be a Jehovah's Witness
Sing-IllSway  Wrote: (04-21-2017 04:55 AM)
Not that I'm a big fan of having people knock and then proselytize to me on my front door, but still. It's kind of a d*ck move to ban them:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/20/world...esses.html


Russia's Supreme Court has deemed them "an extremist group". Which is...so silly. I'd say they're definitely extremely irritating, but an "extremist group"...? Given the context we all know that implies...?


All in all, it's simply disgusting. Any attempt, by the state or anyone, to prevent individuals from practicing any faith they choose is a devolved assault not just on personal liberty but civilization itself. We HAVE TO allow each other to worship as we individually choose. Regardless.

from the article:
"Jehovah’s Witnesses shuns political activity and has no record of even peaceful — never mind violent — hostility to the Russian authorities. But it has faced growing hostility from the state since President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia began his third term in 2012 and put the Orthodox Church at the center of his push to assert Russia as a great military and moral power."

It reminds me of Nazi hostility to Catholics during World War 2.

Basically the Nazis were DEEPLY suspicious of Catholics since the headquarters of the church is Rome. Fascism dictates TOTAL loyalty to the state. But Catholics living under the purview of the Third Reich were considered POTENTIALLY harboring dual loyalties:

Third Reich/Rome
Adolf Hitler/Pope Pius the 12th


As a result many Catholics suffered and many priests in particular were outright murdered.

It seems Russia isn't crazy about the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses practice a faith headquartered in the United States. The kind of thing that, unfortunately, seems to keep repressive dictators awake at night.

This is typically the matrix "christian" result...JW. So...not good. I get satanic and demon infested "preachers" sometimes...I mean I guess you're supposed to do the opposite of what they say or disregard completely but some things are valid that they say.
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RE: In Russia it's officially illegal to be a Jehovah's Witness
I think it is probably a good idea. The faith was started by a 33rd degree mason who studied egyptian artifacts and architecture and who claimed to have a magic wheat. Anyways he started the Watchtower society and his name was Charles Taze Russell.






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFExZQyNbf0


Charles Taze Russell was born from a Presbyterian family. His father was an elite Freemason. Russell joined a Congregational Church but was troubled by the churches teachings of hell, which led him to be skeptical about the church in his early adolescence. By the age of 18 (1869) he participated in a reunion by the Second Adventists, held by Jonas Wendell. What he heard resurrected his faith in the Bible. The Adventists believed that the soul is put to rest after death awaiting resurrection. Therefore, no Hell. Russell studied the Bible and was greatly influenced by many Adventists such as George Storrs, Jonas Wendell, George Stetson and Nelson Barbour. Many of Russell’s doctrines came from the Adventists of the first hour including William Miller’s predictions because of his calculations of date for the return of Christ.

One of the major Adventist influences on Russell was Nelson Barbour whom published the magazine “The Midnight Cry” (later named “Herald of the Morning”). Barbour thought Christ would return in a visible manner in 1874. Since nothing happened in 1874, Barbour thought that Christ did actually come, but remained invisible. In 1876, when Charles Taze Russell received a copy of Herald of the Morning, he believed the invisible return of Christ of 1874. He accepted more of the chronologies of events established by Barbour including the calculations of the ‘Gentile Times”. Russell wrote an article about the Gentile Times in the periodic Bible Examiner by George Storrs. Nelson Barbour and Charles Taze Russell joined for the publication of the Adventist magazine Herald of the morning, where Russell became the assistant editor. In Barbour’s chronology, he says that 6000 years since the creation of Adam ended in 1873 and that Christ had returned invisibly in 1874. The harvest would happen between 1874 and 1914 the end of “The Gentile Times”. The Watchtower pretends that the year 1914 was determined by the following calculations: 2520 years minus 606 years B.C.; the assumed date of the fall of Jerusalem (actually known as 587 or 586 before Jesus Christ (BC)).

When Russell separated from Barbour to found his own magazine, The Zion’s Watchtower in 1879, he brought these Adventist doctrines with him. Among them he took the ransom doctrine, heaven on earth, critics on the traditional churches, the soul sleep after death and the memorial celebrated once a year by George Storrs. The dates calculated for the return of Christ, the denial of the immortality of the soul and hell, do not come from Jehovah’s Witnesses as they would like us to believe, they actually originate from the Adventists. This leads us to see that the Jehovah’s Witnesses are not a religion per say but an Adventist cult.

https://www.watchtowerlies.com/origins_o...esses.html

They actually have to go out and knock doors, its called pioneering and send in a report of their activities to head office.

I guess they probably shouldn't be discriminated against but not a faith I would join.
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Post: #23
RE: In Russia it's officially illegal to be a Jehovah's Witness
Yeah we don't WITNESS PROTECT, a cult that goes from property to property trespassing to see what they can steal. Jptdknpa

They should all be shot, one way or another.

It's called crimes against humanity Jehovah's Witness, now die.

Last time you ever snoop here.

For Lobogrieka, Kremlin knows.



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