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Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
larryjones
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05-20-2017 12:01 AM

 



Post: #1081
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
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I do not have a formula but, if the earth is spinning at any rate and the clouds are somehow keeping up to that rate to drop water on us from clouds we can clearly see overhead, why does the cloud not dissipate into the atmosphere instead of gathering together. I mean it is moving at such a high rate of speed how could it hold itself together? It would have to be moving faster than the spin to achieve that.
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larryjones
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05-20-2017 12:06 AM

 



Post: #1082
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
Just to add to that, if clouds do somehow keep up with the rotation of the spinning globe rain drop would be measurable at the speed they drop for whatever height they are at to begin with. So a cloud that is 3000 feet above sea level would have to have a speed of X from 3000 ft to the ground to hit the earth in the vicinity of the clouds in the first place. What is the speed of raindrops falling from any altitude to earth surface?
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President Camacho
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Post: #1083
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
larryjones  Wrote: (05-20-2017 12:01 AM)
I do not have a formula but, if the earth is spinning at any rate and the clouds are somehow keeping up to that rate to drop water on us from clouds we can clearly see overhead, why does the cloud not dissipate into the atmosphere instead of gathering together. I mean it is moving at such a high rate of speed how could it hold itself together? It would have to be moving faster than the spin to achieve that.

"Wind is caused by differences in the atmospheric pressure. When a difference in atmospheric pressure exists, air moves from the higher to the lower pressure area, resulting in winds of various speeds. On a rotating planet, air will also be deflected by the Coriolis effect, except exactly on the equator."

Part of the irony of the existence of this thread is that the air currents are predictable and behave how they should behave with a heliocentric model of Earth.

"Clouds form when rising air, through expansion, cools to the point where some of the water vapor molecules "clump together" faster than they are torn apart by their thermal energy. Some of that (invisible) water vapor condenses to form (visible) cloud droplets or ice crystals."

"The atmosphere rotates along with the Earth due to the friction. Friction makes molecules that are in contact with the ground to move. The friction between the air molecules (air viscosity) causes the upper molecules to move."

I would assume atmospheric pressure plays a role in creating that friction. I doubt the atmosphere turns exactly with the Earth at all elevations, but I think it does in just a general sense.

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Coolhandluke74
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05-20-2017 01:09 AM

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Post: #1084
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
grav  Wrote: (05-19-2017 09:40 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-19-2017 09:24 PM)
OP has a very fragile mentality.. D takes "those people" to heart.

Aww, thanks for your concern. Hugs And for not calling me a tard, delusional, the stupid it burns, etc. Years of hearing that makes me go meh. You get used to hanging if you hang long enough. It's the globers I worry about. Poor dears.

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Eustace Muffins
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Post: #1085
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
Hey grav-


Are you going to ignore or answer my questions?


Post#1077,1078

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Coolhandluke74
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Post: #1086
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
Eustace Muffins  Wrote: (05-20-2017 01:11 AM)
Hey grav-


Are you going to ignore or answer my questions?


Post#1077,1078

Don't feel bad she ignores half the questions she has no answer for.

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Post: #1087
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
President Camacho  Wrote: (05-20-2017 12:12 AM)
larryjones  Wrote: (05-20-2017 12:01 AM)
I do not have a formula but, if the earth is spinning at any rate and the clouds are somehow keeping up to that rate to drop water on us from clouds we can clearly see overhead, why does the cloud not dissipate into the atmosphere instead of gathering together. I mean it is moving at such a high rate of speed how could it hold itself together? It would have to be moving faster than the spin to achieve that.

"Wind is caused by differences in the atmospheric pressure. When a difference in atmospheric pressure exists, air moves from the higher to the lower pressure area, resulting in winds of various speeds. On a rotating planet, air will also be deflected by the Coriolis effect, except exactly on the equator."

Part of the irony of the existence of this thread is that the air currents are predictable and behave how they should behave with a heliocentric model of Earth.

"Clouds form when rising air, through expansion, cools to the point where some of the water vapor molecules "clump together" faster than they are torn apart by their thermal energy. Some of that (invisible) water vapor condenses to form (visible) cloud droplets or ice crystals."

"The atmosphere rotates along with the Earth due to the friction. Friction makes molecules that are in contact with the ground to move. The friction between the air molecules (air viscosity) causes the upper molecules to move."

I would assume atmospheric pressure plays a role in creating that friction. I doubt the atmosphere turns exactly with the Earth at all elevations, but I think it does in just a general sense.

The atmosphere rotates along with the Earth due to friction.
You actually said that? You claim that gaseous particles travel the same speed as the surface. Because of friction. I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the profundity of that inanity. You used quotation marks but neglected to cite your source. Which think tank says that air moves 500 mph in St. Louis and 10 mph in Siberia. And what about winds that blow contrary to the "globe's" rotation.

I took the time to see which law governs how gases move. http://chemistry.bd.psu.edu/jircitano/gases.html
Boyle's Law? No. Avogado? No.
Please point out which scientist proposed this law governing motions of gases . Perhaps it was Merlin?



Coolhandluke74  Wrote: (05-20-2017 01:21 AM)
Eustace Muffins  Wrote: (05-20-2017 01:11 AM)
Hey grav-


Are you going to ignore or answer my questions?


Post#1077,1078

Don't feel bad she ignores half the questions she has no answer for.

You keeping track? Questions? Your main contribution is a snotty attitude. Banned Arab is all about abuse. Neither one or you has a clue about science.
Now and then I get a half-assed response to my dozens of proofs that say the globe is a dud. See the above post by Camacho.
I am not here to debate fools, trolls, shills. If anyone has a serious objection to one of my posts, I will entertain such a counterargument, if it is phrased politely.

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Post: #1088
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
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"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman
Learn to love your servitude...Aldous Huxley
"Everything You Know Is Wrong," Lloyd Pye: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qJYwfAju8
Conspiracy writers and sites: http://lunaticoutpost.com/showthread.php?tid=454782
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Coolhandluke74
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Post: #1089
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
grav  Wrote: (05-20-2017 01:48 AM)
President Camacho  Wrote: (05-20-2017 12:12 AM)
"Wind is caused by differences in the atmospheric pressure. When a difference in atmospheric pressure exists, air moves from the higher to the lower pressure area, resulting in winds of various speeds. On a rotating planet, air will also be deflected by the Coriolis effect, except exactly on the equator."

Part of the irony of the existence of this thread is that the air currents are predictable and behave how they should behave with a heliocentric model of Earth.

"Clouds form when rising air, through expansion, cools to the point where some of the water vapor molecules "clump together" faster than they are torn apart by their thermal energy. Some of that (invisible) water vapor condenses to form (visible) cloud droplets or ice crystals."

"The atmosphere rotates along with the Earth due to the friction. Friction makes molecules that are in contact with the ground to move. The friction between the air molecules (air viscosity) causes the upper molecules to move."

I would assume atmospheric pressure plays a role in creating that friction. I doubt the atmosphere turns exactly with the Earth at all elevations, but I think it does in just a general sense.

The atmosphere rotates along with the Earth due to friction.
You actually said that? You claim that gaseous particles travel the same speed as the surface. Because of friction. I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the profundity of that inanity. You used quotation marks but neglected to cite your source. Which think tank says that air moves 500 mph in St. Louis and 10 mph in Siberia. And what about winds that blow contrary to the "globe's" rotation.

I took the time to see which law governs how gases move. http://chemistry.bd.psu.edu/jircitano/gases.html
Boyle's Law? No. Avogado? No.
Please point out which scientist proposed this law governing motions of gases . Perhaps it was Merlin?



Coolhandluke74  Wrote: (05-20-2017 01:21 AM)
Don't feel bad she ignores half the questions she has no answer for.

You keeping track? Questions? Your main contribution is a snotty attitude. Banned Arab is all about abuse. Neither one or you has a clue about science.
Now and then I get a half-assed response to my dozens of proofs that say the globe is a dud. See the above post by Camacho.
I am not here to debate fools, trolls, shills. If anyone has a serious objection to one of my posts, I will entertain such a counterargument, if it is phrased politely.

I know plenty about science, seems more so than you since you believe the Earth is flat....
But i do respect you for your fight, but your energy is just misplaced.

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Eustace Muffins
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Post: #1090
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
Hey grav,,, please stop deflecting. Please answer post 1077 amd 1078

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Post: #1091
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
Eustace Muffins  Wrote: (05-20-2017 02:12 AM)
Hey grav,,, please stop deflecting. Please answer post 1077 amd 1078

Repeat them, in one post.

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman
Learn to love your servitude...Aldous Huxley
"Everything You Know Is Wrong," Lloyd Pye: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qJYwfAju8
Conspiracy writers and sites: http://lunaticoutpost.com/showthread.php?tid=454782
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Eustace Muffins
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Post: #1092
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
grav  Wrote: (05-20-2017 02:34 AM)
Eustace Muffins  Wrote: (05-20-2017 02:12 AM)
Hey grav,,, please stop deflecting. Please answer post 1077 amd 1078

Repeat them, in one post.

So are the other planets flat. Or is earth the only flat planet in the cosmos?


Where does earths magma come from?

No copy n paste and no links. Your own words.

Assad Akbar!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post: #1093
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
grav  Wrote: (05-20-2017 01:48 AM)
President Camacho  Wrote: (05-20-2017 12:12 AM)
"Wind is caused by differences in the atmospheric pressure. When a difference in atmospheric pressure exists, air moves from the higher to the lower pressure area, resulting in winds of various speeds. On a rotating planet, air will also be deflected by the Coriolis effect, except exactly on the equator."

Part of the irony of the existence of this thread is that the air currents are predictable and behave how they should behave with a heliocentric model of Earth.

"Clouds form when rising air, through expansion, cools to the point where some of the water vapor molecules "clump together" faster than they are torn apart by their thermal energy. Some of that (invisible) water vapor condenses to form (visible) cloud droplets or ice crystals."

"The atmosphere rotates along with the Earth due to the friction. Friction makes molecules that are in contact with the ground to move. The friction between the air molecules (air viscosity) causes the upper molecules to move."

I would assume atmospheric pressure plays a role in creating that friction. I doubt the atmosphere turns exactly with the Earth at all elevations, but I think it does in just a general sense.

The atmosphere rotates along with the Earth due to friction.
You actually said that? You claim that gaseous particles travel the same speed as the surface. Because of friction. I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the profundity of that inanity. You used quotation marks but neglected to cite your source. Which think tank says that air moves 500 mph in St. Louis and 10 mph in Siberia. And what about winds that blow contrary to the "globe's" rotation.

I took the time to see which law governs how gases move. http://chemistry.bd.psu.edu/jircitano/gases.html
Boyle's Law? No. Avogado? No.
Please point out which scientist proposed this law governing motions of gases . Perhaps it was Merlin?



Coolhandluke74  Wrote: (05-20-2017 01:21 AM)
Don't feel bad she ignores half the questions she has no answer for.

You keeping track? Questions? Your main contribution is a snotty attitude. Banned Arab is all about abuse. Neither one or you has a clue about science.
Now and then I get a half-assed response to my dozens of proofs that say the globe is a dud. See the above post by Camacho.
I am not here to debate fools, trolls, shills. If anyone has a serious objection to one of my posts, I will entertain such a counterargument, if it is phrased politely.

Modern Kabbalistic "science" has no clue about science either.
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grav
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Post: #1094
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
Eustace Muffins  Wrote: (05-20-2017 04:59 AM)
grav  Wrote: (05-20-2017 02:34 AM)
Repeat them, in one post.

So are the other planets flat. Or is earth the only flat planet in the cosmos?


Where does earths magma come from?

No copy n paste and no links. Your own words.

My own words are guesses. Planets are not rocks and gas giants as Nasa claims. Planets and stars used to be called luminaries. So, dunno. Maybe disks. Photographers manage to take pictures of them, which should be impossible if we believe the distances involved. The images are distorted, of course, and they often waver as if they lie under water.
Ex., Saturn
[Image: WS-4.jpg]

As for magma, which becomes lava as it pours out of volcanoes, my purely uneducated guess is that it lies in flat lakes underneath the flat surface. Geologists have no idea what lies below 7.5 miles. They use seismographs to find oil and gas.

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Learn to love your servitude...Aldous Huxley
"Everything You Know Is Wrong," Lloyd Pye: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qJYwfAju8
Conspiracy writers and sites: http://lunaticoutpost.com/showthread.php?tid=454782
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Post: #1095
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
Some of you may remember Rothbard, who first introduced me, and the forum, to flat earth. He left LOP when his thread was put into the religious forum. Now while he is religious, RB saw the move as a tactic to discredit the flat earth community. So he left the board.

He posts at Conspiracy Outpost on my 'Nasa says' thread, which I quit when a mod made me mad. I needed a break anyway and returned to my old stomping grounds here because Disturbed relented in his handling of this muchly hated ct. I hold no grudges, would go to glp if they would behave.

Here is a quote, pasted whole hog, from a post RB made yesterday. I already bought the Schoepffer book he recommends. I like books and prefer them to videos. I'm using quotation marks instead of the quote box, which is an intrusive structure. The quotation repeats my exasperation when I hear anyone say that the air moves with the earth's' rotation. S977

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I've been reading the book "50 Reasons - Copernicus or the Bible" shared [email protected] Softly (found here -https://books.google.com/books/about/Fifty_Reasons_Copernicus_Or_the_Bible.html?id=cmUqz_wbNAEC) and in it the author (F. E. Pasche) shared another book I had never heard of called, "The Earth Stands Fast" (1869) by Dr. Carl Schoepffer, a physicist.  The book is available on amazon:  https://www.amazon.com/Earth-Stands-Fast...Schoepffer

Even though he's limited to geocentristm I recommend you add it to your library. 

So far, these authors are making a lot of great points, many of which we have discussed.  Here's a well-worded argument of Dr. Schoepffer's which is also one of our primary arguments:

"It is not possible, as I conceive, that the lighter air of the higher regions, especially, can follow the globe of the earth when it is rotating with considerable rapidity.  The earth, rotating towards the east, would cause an air current toward the west.  Were the universe where the earth is rotating with its air-belt, perfectly vacuous, we might perhaps - I say, perhaps - accept the view of a rotation of the earth without influence upon the air-belt; but the nature of the air contradicts the thought of such a vacuum-state.  So far as we know, the air possesses such a tendency toward expansion as partly to neutralize by it the laws of gravity.  Did not the extremely thin air find a body in the universe to preserve its equilibrium, it would expand still further, the air-layers next would follow, and finally also the entire body of water would have its part in this expansion and fly out into the universe, exactly as we may produce like phenomena of expansion under the air-pump.  There must, therefore, be in existence a materia which preserves the equilibrium of the outermost air-layers - a materia which, according to universal usage, we call ether; and it thus follows that the air cannot escape into endless space - nay, each layer must press upon the next lower one, and by this gradually increased pressure is caused the greater density of the air-layers next to us.

But if there is an ether (the existence of which also seems to be confirmed by the meteorites), then with a rotation of the earth such well-known effects must appear in the air-layers as always arise from the resistance of a moving current of air.  If now we set the earth in motion, the outermost air-layer will hang back, through the opposition of the ether (provided the entire air-belt is forced, by attraction, to partake of the rotation), and will appear to move in the opposite direction.  If this should take place, the outermost air-layer would likewise exert a pressure upon the next lower air layer, this would share in the current contrary to the rotation of the earth, and in this manner the contrary current would increase and gradually grow in such a degree that finally the entire air-belt, and likewise all the water of the globe, would turn eastward...."

"But we know of no body the parts of which have much less connection with each other than is the case with the air.  The air-layer next to the earth, really dragged along by the communicated motion, would not be able to communicate its motion to the layers above it, for the simple reason that it stands in no connection with them.  These upper layers must therefore remain in their place, or (which would signify the same thing) would apparently flow westward with the same rapidity with which the earth is said to rotate to the east.  Now, since a point on the equator (if the earth rotates on its axis in a day) must move eastward at the rate of 1,250 feet a second, the air would similarly move 1,250 feet westward in a second, which would more than ten times surpass the velocity of the most fearful hurricane ... We cannot perceive the rotation of the earth in any way.  We cannot demonstrate it!  There are no air-currents which we can justly regard as - or even suppose to be - consequences of this rotation.  These facts ought to be proof enough against the existence of a rotation of the earth .... Must it not appear almost absurd in us, preoccupied by what they have taught us in school, to accept a theory of the rotation of the earth which neither is, nor can be, proven?  Must we not wonder at the readiness of the learned of nearly the entire world, from the time of Copernicus and Kepler, to accept the conception of the rotation of the earth - and then search afterwards, now for nearly three and a half centuries, for arguments to maintain it, but of course without being able to find them?"

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Learn to love your servitude...Aldous Huxley
"Everything You Know Is Wrong," Lloyd Pye: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qJYwfAju8
Conspiracy writers and sites: http://lunaticoutpost.com/showthread.php?tid=454782
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