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Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
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banana Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
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Disturbed  Wrote: (05-08-2017 03:48 PM)
grav  Wrote: (05-08-2017 03:42 PM)
Undelete flat earth threads. You've lost sharp critical thinkers for that prejudice. I never left, just sulked. I tolerate jackleg posters. When mods troll, I lose my cool.

Just start a dedicated FE thread.

I am not going back to the fighting on several FE threads day in, day out.

Heartflowers

OK, Disturbed has made it legit. Please keep it civil, on task, support with evidence, including photos. No personal remarks! Behave!

Edit, 11-24-17: I should have posted this the first day, when Admin finally approved discussion of Flat Earth theory. Here are points debaters can take into consideration when they post opinions. Any that deviate from these and similar specifics should be ignored by readers.
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Why do you believe the world is round and orbits the sun in the Milky Way galaxy?
Because you were taught the heliocentric model in school? Yes, that is the answer.

So why are you looking at this thread? If you consider yourself to be a true Critical Thinker, which the CIA calls Conspiracy Theory, then you will put aside your indoctrination by the education system and you will look at the arguments put forth in the following pages. Please do not condemn the idea before you have examined it with an open mind.


10 reasons to disprove the spherical model of earth and the heliocentric system:


1. Curvature. Spherical trigonometry dictates that the globe should exhibit a curve of 8 inches per mile squared. No experiments on land or water have ever proven this math to be accurate. On the contrary, with proper telephoto lenses, objects can be detected far beyond the expected curvature. Example: Photos of Chicago from across Lake Michigan.

2. Atmosphere vs space vacuum. Space theoretically begins 62 miles above the earth’s surface, at the Karman Line. The laws of physics say that a vacuum can not exist next to an atmosphere. Without a barrier to separate the two areas, the atmosphere would instantly escape into the hard vacuum of space. Example: open a tank of compressed air; the oxygen or other gases inside the tank will rush outside to achieve equilibrium of air pressure. A vacuum cannot exist next to the atmosphere.

3. Water. Liquid water always seeks its own level. Gravity, which is really the function of density (weight) of objects over distances, cannot cause oceans to curve around the globe. Sea level must be consistent throughout the world. Water, in other words, can not curve. Example: the Pacific Ocean, sea level.

4. Centrifugal force. If earth rotated at 1000 mph at the equator, nothing could withstand being thrown off of it along a curved or tangential path. Gravity is said to be the weakest force in the universe. It is, under any circumstances, unable to overcome the extreme speed of rotation. Gravity is actually the ratio of densities of adjacent objects, such as the density of water compared to that of air.. Examples include insects, clouds, smoke, other low density-objects which rise above the earth despite the alleged gravity and centrifugal force. Example: merry-go-rounds.

5. Authorities.  Professionals in many fields --pilots, engineers, surveyors, gunners, artillerymen, radar operators, etc. -- do not account for curvature in any manner. Example: surveyors never adjust for earth curvature when they design canals, causeway bridges, railroad lines.

6 Moon and sun. Both objects appear to the eye to be the same size, though the moon is around 238,000 miles away and the sun is 93 million miles distant. Sunlight beams deny the claim that rays enter earth’s atmosphere in parallel beams. Using simple geometry, one can determine that the triangular pattern results in a distance of only 3000 miles above. The moon emits a cooling light which illuminates only the clouds which are near it, not those that are further away. Example: sunlight beaming rays through clouds (crepuscular rays) form a triangle with a base of less than 8,000 miles miles

7. Constellations. Star patterns have not altered appreciably in human history. Considering speeds of celestial objects which travel billions of miles per year in multiple directions, as well as earth’s own rotation, revolution around the sun, following the sun through the universe, we should observe some changes in as little as 6 months (stellar parallax). But no such changes have been seen in 6000 years. Example: Orion, Polaris  in the same locations for millennia.

8. Airplane travel. Flights to and from countries in the southern hemisphere always pass over countries in the north, even though they could refuel in places along a direct route. When plotted on the flat earth map, the planes show that they follow a straight line. Example: flights between South America, Africa, Australia.. 

9. No Sensation of movement. If earth actually rotated and revolved around the sun at 67,000 mph, we should hear sonic booms and be swept away by winds far beyond hurricane strength.       Examples: quiet, calm days, east-to-west winds

10. Photographs of earth from space. There are no legitimate pictures or videos of earth.  All pictorial evidence is computer-generated, as are almost all photos of celestial objects. NASA even says that these photographs were created to “match people’s expectations.”  
Other evident fakery from space agencies, including the ISS and the Space Shuttle, further supports the argument that our ideas about space are entirely faked.

This is real photographic proof, with wide-angle lens correction.
[Image: th?id=OIP.x2Ym3dHd4c34mQo2wAauqAEsCd&pid=15.1]

And this is fake,
[Image: dscovrepicmoontransitfull.gif?resize=985%2C554]

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Learn to love your servitude...Aldous Huxley
"Everything You Know Is Wrong," Lloyd Pye: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qJYwfAju8
Conspiracy writers and sites: http://lunaticoutpost.com/showthread.php?tid=454782
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RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
Its not legit.

Disturbed just enjoys giving the mentally ill a place to post.
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RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
The earth is not flat

Remember, I am playing a character who is based on me.
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RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
HamburgerWagon  Wrote: (05-08-2017 04:09 PM)
The earth is not flat

Jhikpghf there are hills and mountains.
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RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-08-2017 04:09 PM)
Its not legit.

Disturbed just enjoys giving the mentally ill a place to post.

You must be thinking of the religious forum.
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RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
So can we legitimately say that the idea of Flat Earth is completely idiotic and reveals a huge lack of critical thinking, fact interpretation and above all, lack of intelligence or will to test your own claims based on science and observation?
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Post: #7
RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
There is no flat Earth.

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RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-08-2017 04:09 PM)
Its not legit.

Disturbed just enjoys giving the mentally ill a place to post.

Ad hominem about me and scurrilous attack on admin. Bad form, guest.

HamburgerWagon  Wrote: (05-08-2017 04:09 PM)
The earth is not flat

Bumps are muchly appreciated, but . . . please see the part in my OP that asks for evidence to support a debate position. You lost one (1) debate point for your failure to bolster your opinion.
This following bit of evidence is what I asked for, in every post, a piece of the puzzle, pro or con.
The animation comes from Nasa. It has multiple flaws. Can you spot them? I can enumerate them in another post. I do so to discredit the prime authority on current cosmology.




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Learn to love your servitude...Aldous Huxley
"Everything You Know Is Wrong," Lloyd Pye: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qJYwfAju8
Conspiracy writers and sites: http://lunaticoutpost.com/showthread.php?tid=454782
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RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
facepalm



“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”


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RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
At the very least you could extend the common courtesy to let the flat earthers make their case, to present their evidence.
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RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
Posters have no (0) empirical evidence to date? Round Earth is off to a bad start, it seems.

Regarding animation above, flaws so far include these:

1. clouds not moving, frozen in place for almost 5 hours;

2. unnatural 2-D moon;

3. straight-line trajectory of the moon;

4. wrong dimensions of US, which should be 3/8 earth diameter;

5. squiggly dark lines of clouds (right above the moon) which look a mask or a butterfly, or letters, one of which may be an X;

6. lack of earth's rotation; the moon appears stuck over the Pacific east of California. 

Illegitimi non carborundum, platygaeanae!
Learn to love your servitude...Aldous Huxley
"Everything You Know Is Wrong," Lloyd Pye: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qJYwfAju8
Conspiracy writers and sites: http://lunaticoutpost.com/showthread.php?tid=454782
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RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,




Now, you post someone proving the earth is flat via the scientific method.
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RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
Jean Luc is it?


Well, it is a work day.
Can you see a booboo in this image, of an astronaut with Earth behind him?
Any guesses?


[Image: Astronaut_Harrison_%27Jack%27_Schmitt,_A...A-1%29.jpg]

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Learn to love your servitude...Aldous Huxley
"Everything You Know Is Wrong," Lloyd Pye: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qJYwfAju8
Conspiracy writers and sites: http://lunaticoutpost.com/showthread.php?tid=454782
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RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-08-2017 04:23 PM)
At the very least you could extend the common courtesy to let the flat earthers make their case, to present their evidence.

'Pics of the edge or GTFO' is the only response other than facepalms that FE threads are worthy of.



“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”


H.L. Mencken 1920.
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RE: Dedicated Flat Earth Thread,
Turtles all the way down.

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