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Pope Francis wants to Enforce his Mark: 22 States are preparing to let him
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RE: Pope Francis wants to Enforce his Mark: 23 States are preparing to let him
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9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb
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RE: Pope Francis wants to Enforce his Mark: 23 States are preparing to let him
TheThirdAngel  Wrote: (06-18-2017 10:21 PM)
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The Beast System is about control. Our world is controlled by 2 things, government and money. Banks want to ban cash, because they've created too much debt.

Banks will ban cash, and use governments to enforce the ban, like Sharia Law forcing you to use an electronic currency.

That electronic currency will really be worthless because it's really just digits in a computer. That requires the full force of government to force people to use the money.

It's all about our future monetary system which requires absolute conformance and the reality it is all built on lies from the enemy.

He creates the lies, gets everyone hooked on the lies then mandates people use the lies as "value".

Use your brain and look around, wake up.

You have not presented a single Bible verse that says a sign upon your hands and forehead is physical.

Revelation 13:16-17

And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.
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Post: #48
RE: Pope Francis wants to Enforce his Mark: 23 States are preparing to let him
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-18-2017 10:50 PM)
TheThirdAngel  Wrote: (06-18-2017 10:21 PM)
You have not presented a single Bible verse that says a sign upon your hands and forehead is physical.

Revelation 13:16-17

And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

καὶ ποιεῖ πάντας, τοὺς μικροὺς καὶ τοὺς μεγάλους, καὶ τοὺς πλουσίους καὶ τοὺς πτωχούς, καὶ τοὺς ἐλευθέρους καὶ τοὺς δούλους, ἵνα δῶσιν αὐτοῖς χάραγμα ἐπὶ τῆς χειρὸς αὐτῶν τῆς δεξιᾶς ἢ ἐπὶ τὸ μέτωπον αὐτῶν


A mark upon their right hand (τῆς χειρὸς αὐτῶν τῆς δεξιᾶς) and upon their forehead (ἐπὶ τὸ μέτωπον αὐτῶν)

Positional, dative tense, indicates physical location. A command (poor interpretation by the way) would be in the indicative tense.
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Post: #49
RE: Pope Francis wants to Enforce his Mark: 23 States are preparing to let him
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-18-2017 10:30 PM)
TheThirdAngel  Wrote: (06-18-2017 10:21 PM)
You have not presented a single Bible verse that says a sign upon your hands and forehead is physical.


9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.

That doesn't tell you the mark is physical, it tells you the results of one taking the mark. The Scriptures define what a mark upon your hands and forehead is, and it is spiritual.

Deuteronomy 6:6-8  And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:  7  And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.  8  And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
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RE: Pope Francis wants to Enforce his Mark: 23 States are preparing to let him
TheThirdAngel  Wrote: (06-18-2017 11:30 PM)
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9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.

That doesn't tell you the mark is physical, it tells you the results of one taking the mark. The Scriptures define what a mark upon your hands and forehead is, and it is spiritual.

Deuteronomy 6:6-8  And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:  7  And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.  8  And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
you go ahead and believe what you want as it's your own soul to answer to in the end
just as anyone else interested in this subject will decide what they think each individually
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RE: Pope Francis wants to Enforce his Mark: 23 States are preparing to let him
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Revelation 13:16-17

And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

καὶ ποιεῖ πάντας, τοὺς μικροὺς καὶ τοὺς μεγάλους, καὶ τοὺς πλουσίους καὶ τοὺς πτωχούς, καὶ τοὺς ἐλευθέρους καὶ τοὺς δούλους, ἵνα δῶσιν αὐτοῖς χάραγμα ἐπὶ τῆς χειρὸς αὐτῶν τῆς δεξιᾶς ἢ ἐπὶ τὸ μέτωπον αὐτῶν


A mark upon their right hand (τῆς χειρὸς αὐτῶν τῆς δεξιᾶς) and upon their forehead (ἐπὶ τὸ μέτωπον αὐτῶν)

Positional, dative tense, indicates physical location. A command (poor interpretation by the way) would be in the indicative tense.

You're misunderstanding the Scriptures. The same language is employed in the Old Testament, repeatedly.

Deuteronomy 11:18  Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

The Apostle John is not suggesting a literal mark is placed upon the people. In no other verses does it imply it's a literal part. Yet, we come to Revelation, which is mostly symbolic, and people are trying to apply a literal interpretation to the "mark" of the "beast". Both those terms are symbolic. The "mark" is spiritual, and refers to commandments. The "beast" refers to a kingdom.

Daniel 7:23  Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
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Post: #52
RE: Pope Francis wants to Enforce his Mark: 23 States are preparing to let him
Quote:You're misunderstanding the Scriptures.
What i see here is you demanding people believe your versions of interpretation
while claiming they are all wrong

Bible verse skipping around as you are doing is a way to confusion
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Post: #53
RE: Pope Francis wants to Enforce his Mark: 23 States are preparing to let him
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-18-2017 11:41 PM)
Quote:You're misunderstanding the Scriptures.
What i see here is you demanding people believe your versions of interpretation
while claiming they are all wrong

Bible verse skipping around as you are doing is a way to confusion


"For precept must be on precept, precept on precept; line on line, line on line; here a little, and there a little:" Is 28:10
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Post: #54
RE: Pope Francis wants to Enforce his Mark: 23 States are preparing to let him
TheThirdAngel  Wrote: (06-18-2017 10:19 PM)
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I'm one of the Christians who keeps the sundown Friday to sundown Saturday Sabbath, although I'm not a 7th day Adventist and don't go to any specific church.

Having said that, the mark of the beast has nothing to do with Sunday laws. It will be a mark or image that a person will agree to have implanted in their right hand or forehead (if they don't have a right hand), and they will take it as accepting the head of a one world government as "God". You won't be able to buy or sell without it…but….there will be no mistake that the person who takes it is WORSHIPING the one world leader, otherwise known as the Antichrist. The mark will either be his name, or the number of his name.

No, this is completely false.

Deuteronomy 11:18  Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

A sign on your hands and forehead refers to commandments. There is no verse in the Bible that says the mark is literally physically on you.

No, it's not false. Read the Book of Revelation.

Rev. 13:17 (KJV)

"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."


It's not the Sabbath.
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RE: Pope Francis wants to Enforce his Mark: 23 States are preparing to let him
I just asked Jesus and he does not know about any mark we are suppose d to take, so any attempt to do this will result in security forces going missing and eventually the people giving the orders. Be gone to the abyss demons!

Not sure really how a climate agreement gets to this but fair enough.

Guess we're going to need a load more incubators, you really need to think about what you are doing, there is no way back from this.

FYI most people have already taken the mark, you were baptised and entered a different tax system, all caps name, therefore you are not considered a peasant, and look down on most of us.
Can't wait to see a big hole where the Vatican is now.

Can't imagine a bunch of plods coming round to stamp a mark on my head with a hot poker, would be hilarious. Jptdknpa, like your acolyte/necrophages being reborn as a maggot demon.

Athena says hi, we all had a great party in the cooker matrix, your time is very soon..
Just ignore them, you'll hear their blood curdling screams then they'll disappear. Poof
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And it's even becoming apparent that some key sith lords are being used as surrogates, oh yes, if u think you're going to sever the connection and fade away to the shadows after losing, u are wrong, finally getting some real Intel on you shadows.. but who?
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RE: Pope Francis wants to Enforce his Mark: 23 States are preparing to let him
The rightful pope, Benedict XVI, was forced to step aside in order for the false pope/black pope/anti-pope to promote the agenda of the beast that gave him power.

Any Catholic that cherishes his faith and wishes to safeguard his soul should renounce the beast and its false pope.
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banana RE: Pope Francis wants to Enforce his Mark: 23 States are preparing to let him
Well if u want to send some people round to give me the mark, can u pls send ev-errrry-oneeee! U know like in Leon. It feels a bit festivally with this heat, and the 2 day stink of shite would make it feel more like Glastonbury.
Is it woompa loompas that dish it out? Now that would be funny! If u like a lot if chocolate on your biscuit join our club..
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The SDAdventist are soooooooo RIGHT about the Vatican. And sooooooo wrong about the "marking" and the two "beast" and about the final condition of the lost.
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RE: Pope Francis wants to Enforce his Mark: 23 States are preparing to let him
TheThirdAngel  Wrote: (06-18-2017 11:35 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-18-2017 10:53 PM)
καὶ ποιεῖ πάντας, τοὺς μικροὺς καὶ τοὺς μεγάλους, καὶ τοὺς πλουσίους καὶ τοὺς πτωχούς, καὶ τοὺς ἐλευθέρους καὶ τοὺς δούλους, ἵνα δῶσιν αὐτοῖς χάραγμα ἐπὶ τῆς χειρὸς αὐτῶν τῆς δεξιᾶς ἢ ἐπὶ τὸ μέτωπον αὐτῶν


A mark upon their right hand (τῆς χειρὸς αὐτῶν τῆς δεξιᾶς) and upon their forehead (ἐπὶ τὸ μέτωπον αὐτῶν)

Positional, dative tense, indicates physical location. A command (poor interpretation by the way) would be in the indicative tense.

You're misunderstanding the Scriptures. The same language is employed in the Old Testament, repeatedly.

Deuteronomy 11:18  Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

The Apostle John is not suggesting a literal mark is placed upon the people. In no other verses does it imply it's a literal part. Yet, we come to Revelation, which is mostly symbolic, and people are trying to apply a literal interpretation to the "mark" of the "beast". Both those terms are symbolic. The "mark" is spiritual, and refers to commandments. The "beast" refers to a kingdom.

Daniel 7:23  Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

No the text is pretty clear, mark on the hand or forehead.
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