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Carrie Fisher’s cause of death revealed by Los Angeles County Coroner’s Office
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RE: Carrie Fisher’s cause of death revealed by Los Angeles County Coroner’s Office
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Isabella  Wrote: (06-18-2017 07:27 PM)
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The LA Times is reporting that Fisher’s death was as a result of several factors, including sleep apnea, drug use and heart disease.

“My mom battled drug addiction and mental illness her entire life. She ultimately died of it. She was purposefully open in all of her work about the social stigmas surrounding these diseases.

“She talked about the shame that torments people and their families confronted by these diseases. I know my Mom, she’d want her death to encourage people to be open about their struggles. Seek help, fight for government funding for mental health programs. Shame and those social stigmas are the enemies of progress to solutions and ultimately a cure. Love you Momby.”

So we blame the government, as the demo's did away with the mental hospitals put them on the streets as homeless. Then blame Regan here in California. S977

http://people.com/movies/carrie-fisher-cause-of-death/

As the world turns.

I don't get how her daughter can even begin to compare her mother's addictions and the access that she had to the best doctors and rehabs to the average addicted person, no less the mentally ill who have addictions.
imo, the biggest problem was when the medical boards declared that addictions to alcohol and drugs are diseases, along with obesity.

Her daughter seems very kind and sensitive, and it appears that she wants to help the average person. She's put up with a lot, go easy on her.

Carrie's "best doctors and rehabs" made her an incapacitated woman in her fifties, who required minders to take her to a supermarket. Under the finest doctors' 'care' Carrie would rant at other shoppers, make obscene comments and gestures, run around, and generally act deranged.

It was awful to see, and perhaps her money and success attracted people who refused to demand better behavior from her.

The average person would not have any friends acting that way.
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Isabella  Wrote: (06-18-2017 07:19 PM)
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Spearheaded by the New York Civil Liberties Union's (NYCLU) Mental Patients' Rights Project, the shuttered world of people confined because of mental illness and developmental disabilities was one of the next major enclaves targeted for legal action. Bruce Ennis, Director of the Project, was a prime participant in several landmark cases that became the highpoint of the civil rights movement for people with mental disabilities. In Wyatt v. Stickney (1972) and Wyatt v. Aderholt (1974), Ennis challenged the conditions of hospitalization for those with mental illness and developmental disabilities, leading to significant reductions in the institutions' populations; major increases in expenditures for mental health and rehabilitative services; improvement in psychologist-patient ratios; significant reductions in the abuse of patients; and the adoption of the then-innovative concept of specific treatment and rehabilitation plans for each individual. The principles argued for by Ennis, and included in the judge's final order, were subsequently adopted by 35 other states. Another significant result of the Wyatt litigation was the formation of the Mental Health Law Project (MHLP), now the Bazelon Center in Washington, DC.

https://www.aclu.org/other/aclu-history-...stitutions

Thanks for that.
This was also in the early 70's ,the time line of "Willow Brook".
In my area which has a well known Psychiatric Hospital quite a few patients who have been discharged remain in the area and are/become homeless and also refuse to take their medications.
It has become a vicious cycle for some, getting arrested for whatever,sometimes the family tries to get a court order to enforce medications which is just abut impossible to do since they have the right to remain homeless by choice as long as they aren't at risk of hurting themselves or anyone else.
I'm definitely for civil rights for the mentally ill yet seeing how some live is heart wrenching and many have families that have just given up, which is also understandable
What's the solution?.

The solution is already happening.

When the infected are simply listened to, and actually heard, by not just a Psychology Major, but also able to relate. You would be amazed just how rewarding it is to know, you are not alone. Pharmaceuticals, should be a last resort for the "most afflicted", not those afraid to be themselves for being ridicued. It is about teaching one how to like themselves, not shutting down one to self recognition.

Big Pharma needs to go. This Will Happen.

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If it comes out that Carrie was on opiates and/or coke I will not waste another moment of my time thinking of her.

I, and many others, went through a lot trying to get her clean. We genuinely cared about her, because sober Carrie was quite lovable.

But the death of her friend from an opiate overdose a few years ago is telling. He was in her bed. Now, I don't know about you, but no one has died of a drug overdose in my bed next to me. I'm guessing it's because I'm not a drug user?

According to a housekeeper, drug paraphenalia was found in Carrie's home that may have belonged to a guest who later od'd and died, but who knows.

That's a lot of nasty stuff surrounding someone who is supposedly clean from drugs.
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Isabella  Wrote: (06-18-2017 05:38 PM)
"Ronald Reagan and the Federal Deinstitutionalization of Mentally Ill Patients


The lack of institutional care of critically mentally ill patients in the United States has become a complicated problem that has resulted in victimization, homelessness, and incarceration of these individuals. In 1967, the State of California was one of the first states to deinstitutionalize mentally ill patients when it passed the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act (Lyons, 1984). This act had a profoundly negative impact on the lives of the mentally ill. So, why would the Reagan Administration choose to end “the federal government’s role in providing services to the mentally ill” (Pan, 2013)?

Ronald Reagan, the 40th president of the United States, is well known for his fiscal policies that stimulated economic growth, cut inflation and pulled America out of a recession (Cannon, 2017). What Reagan is not readily known for is the long term effect of a law he repealed that essentially deinstitutionalized mentally ill patients at the federal level (Roberts, 2013). While some of his fiscal policies had a positive effect on the U.S. economy during the 1980s, his decision to deinstitutionalize mentally ill patients had a much more deleterious effect on these patients, their communities, and the agencies that were left to contend with these individuals’ mental health issues (Honberg, 2015).

The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (OBRA) is the statute that repealed President Carter’s Mental Health Systems Act which was supposed to continue federal funding for mental health programs. Reagan gave the appearance of making a consequentialist ethical decision because he presented his repeal of OBRA as an action that would best serve American society and do more good than harm as a result. The OBRA gave mental patients a choice to seek treatment outside of a mental institution, an option to seek treatment at clinics at the state level, and the freedom to administer their own medication (PSY533, 2017) (Pan, 2013). However, Reagan was hasty in taking unsound advice to repeal OBRA because his real motive was to cut the federal budget (Roberts, 2013). He was a leader who “never exhibited any interest in the need for research or better treatment for serious mental illness” (Torrey, 2017).

To be an ethical leader, one must attempt to gather as much knowledge as possible when making decisions, especially if one has the power to affect so many lives (Toffler, 2009). The mentally ill are amongst the most vulnerable populations in society because most are unable to make sound decisions regarding their own care due to their mental state. The consequences of Reagan’s social policy can be measured by the fact that today one-third of the homeless population are suffering from severe mental illness which puts a burden on police departments, hospitals and the penal system which lack the training and resources to deal with psychiatric emergencies (Honberg, 2015). Reagan’s unethical choice to end federal funding for mental health programs was driven by the desire to cut the budget. As a result, he did much more harm than good (PSY533, 2017)."

Spearheaded by the New York Civil Liberties Union's (NYCLU) Mental Patients' Rights Project, the shuttered world of people confined because of mental illness and developmental disabilities was one of the next major enclaves targeted for legal action. Bruce Ennis, Director of the Project, was a prime participant in several landmark cases that became the highpoint of the civil rights movement for people with mental disabilities. In Wyatt v. Stickney (1972) and Wyatt v. Aderholt (1974), Ennis challenged the conditions of hospitalization for those with mental illness and developmental disabilities, leading to significant reductions in the institutions' populations; major increases in expenditures for mental health and rehabilitative services; improvement in psychologist-patient ratios; significant reductions in the abuse of patients; and the adoption of the then-innovative concept of specific treatment and rehabilitation plans for each individual. The principles argued for by Ennis, and included in the judge's final order, were subsequently adopted by 35 other states. Another significant result of the Wyatt litigation was the formation of the Mental Health Law Project (MHLP), now the Bazelon Center in Washington, DC.

https://www.aclu.org/other/aclu-history-...stitutions

So what are you saying?

The NYCLU (I'm guessing these are the "demos" you referred to) cleverly tricked Reagan into enacting these policies?

Which subsequent Republican administrations were also cleverly bamboozled into continuing?


Or are you just a partisan dimbulb looking to score points but results in rather clumsily putting one in your own net, instead?
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-18-2017 07:47 PM)
If it comes out that Carrie was on opiates and/or coke I will not waste another moment of my time thinking of her.

I, and many others, went through a lot trying to get her clean. We genuinely cared about her, because sober Carrie was quite lovable.


But the death of her friend from an opiate overdose a few years ago is telling. He was in her bed. Now, I don't know about you, but no one has died of a drug overdose in my bed next to me. I'm guessing it's because I'm not a drug user?

According to a housekeeper, drug paraphenalia was found in Carrie's home that may have belonged to a guest who later od'd and died, but who knows.

That's a lot of nasty stuff surrounding someone who is supposedly clean from drugs.

Goes to show, nobody every really knows a person and some of their secrets.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-18-2017 07:27 PM)
Those mental wards kept many people their entire lives, drugged up, some sexually abused, sterilized either by drugs or by surgery, and tortured by brutal shock treatments.

Shock treatment was/is still used as a form of punishment in psych wards, mostly done to 'angry and uncooperative' women.

Sounds like socialism.
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NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (06-18-2017 08:46 PM)
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Spearheaded by the New York Civil Liberties Union's (NYCLU) Mental Patients' Rights Project, the shuttered world of people confined because of mental illness and developmental disabilities was one of the next major enclaves targeted for legal action. Bruce Ennis, Director of the Project, was a prime participant in several landmark cases that became the highpoint of the civil rights movement for people with mental disabilities. In Wyatt v. Stickney (1972) and Wyatt v. Aderholt (1974), Ennis challenged the conditions of hospitalization for those with mental illness and developmental disabilities, leading to significant reductions in the institutions' populations; major increases in expenditures for mental health and rehabilitative services; improvement in psychologist-patient ratios; significant reductions in the abuse of patients; and the adoption of the then-innovative concept of specific treatment and rehabilitation plans for each individual. The principles argued for by Ennis, and included in the judge's final order, were subsequently adopted by 35 other states. Another significant result of the Wyatt litigation was the formation of the Mental Health Law Project (MHLP), now the Bazelon Center in Washington, DC.

https://www.aclu.org/other/aclu-history-...stitutions

So what are you saying?

The NYCLU (I'm guessing these are the "demos" you referred to) cleverly tricked Reagan into enacting these policies?

Which subsequent Republican administrations were also cleverly bamboozled into continuing?


Or are you just a partisan dimbulb looking to score points but results in rather clumsily putting one in your own net, instead?

Is the ACLU Republican's thing, I think not? They were suing to get the the mentally disturbed their freedoms from being locked up in the institutions. Sorry you don't see this and Reagan then going along with ACLU giving the sick their freedom.

Just think they do have health care today and not being used. lol
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Meh. Who cares. Self indulgent people with massive egos.
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Los Angeles County coroner’s report released on Monday revealed a mixture of drugs that were in actress Carrie Fisher’s system when she went into cardiac arrest on an L.A.-bound flight and later died.

Fisher’s toxicology review found evidence of cocaine, methadone, MDMA (better known as ecstasy), alcohol and opiates when she was rushed to Ronald Reagan UCLA Hospital on Dec. 23, a toxicology report showed.

The test results “suggests there was an exposure to heroin, but that the dose and time of exposure cannot be pinpointed.” Therefore we cannot establish the significance of heroin regarding the cause of death in this case.”

The tests revealed that the cocaine would have been consumed within the previous 72 hours, according to the autopsy.

Four days later on Dec. 27, Fisher went into cardiac arrest. After 90 minutes of attempting to revive her, officials declared the “Star Wars” actress dead just before 9 a.m.

Her cause of death was listed as sleep apnea with other factors.

In addition to the listed cause of death, the coroner’s statement cited “other conditions: atherosclerotic heart disease, drug use.”

It also said: “How Injury Occurred: Multiple drug intake, significance not ascertained.”

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me...story.html
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And if Jews didn't own Hollywood, Ms Fisher would have been a brassiere sales girl at best! Jhikpghf
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If it comes out that Carrie was on opiates and/or coke I will not waste another moment of my time thinking of her.

I, and many others, went through a lot trying to get her clean. We genuinely cared about her, because sober Carrie was quite lovable.

But the death of her friend from an opiate overdose a few years ago is telling. He was in her bed. Now, I don't know about you, but no one has died of a drug overdose in my bed next to me. I'm guessing it's because I'm not a drug user?

According to a housekeeper, drug paraphenalia was found in Carrie's home that may have belonged to a guest who later od'd and died, but who knows.

That's a lot of nasty stuff surrounding someone who is supposedly clean from drugs.

If I'm reading this right you personally knew Carrie?

Drug use can be the cause of bi-polar/symptoms and iirc, she was already a heavy user when she was diagnosed.

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If it comes out that Carrie was on opiates and/or coke I will not waste another moment of my time thinking of her.

I, and many others, went through a lot trying to get her clean. We genuinely cared about her, because sober Carrie was quite lovable.

But the death of her friend from an opiate overdose a few years ago is telling. He was in her bed. Now, I don't know about you, but no one has died of a drug overdose in my bed next to me. I'm guessing it's because I'm not a drug user?

According to a housekeeper, drug paraphenalia was found in Carrie's home that may have belonged to a guest who later od'd and died, but who knows.

That's a lot of nasty stuff surrounding someone who is supposedly clean from drugs.

If I'm reading this right you personally knew Carrie?

Drug use can be the cause of bi-polar/symptoms and iirc, she was already a heavy user when she was diagnosed.

Yes, I did know Carrie and I have many mixed emotions about her.

Like I have said upthread, when Carrie was sober and off drugs she was a very lovable, funny, kind and beautiful person.

That's the Carrie I choose to remember.

I know that she turned her life around to have her daughter, and that was good to see. I wasn't aware that she had too many slips after Billie's birth, I just assumed she would stay clean and sober forever.

I guess I was wrong.

Actually, having seen her in action within the last four or five years gave me a clue as to what she was up to. Carrie was acting horribly in public, and it didn't look like 'bipolar disorder' to me. It looked like Carrie's old 'cocaine asshole' behavior, which I tired of by the mid 1990's and made me give up on her.

Carrie's body had shrunk to a tiny height and she was bent over like an old woman. She would insult strangers in public, say dirty things to strangers, run around, and basically be a really jerk-off. Let em tell you, if Carrie were a man she would have gone to jail for what she said to people, but Carrie was NEVER held accountable for her behavior, ever.

Carrie had a Jekyl and Hyde personality which was not bipolar disorder in my book, but due to a severe cocaine addiction. I believe that cocaine injured her brain decades ago.

Carrie was a major bullshit artist as well, promoting ECT and pretending to be in recovery. Still, if you knew her you had hoped she was getting serious about sobriety and wished her well.

But Carrie was exhausting, adn she wore many of us out.

RIP Carrie, may you be happy and find peace at last.
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