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AMAZON BUYING WHOLE FOODS MUCH MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE
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AMAZON BUYING WHOLE FOODS MUCH MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE
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Everyone sees this a deflationary move in the grocery sector.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-17...hole-foods


I think it is much more than that. Amazon just bought 431 prime locations to launch drones to sell everything it sells from. These locations are in high income areas. This is a black swan event for markets. A major disruptor.
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Vampire Squid.
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I am for disruptive technologies, I am against corporate fascist rule that gains market share by legislation and cronyism.
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amazon is becoming a huge monopoly - much like Microsoft was/is - just as rockefeller had his empire carved up by the feds way back when - same should be for these companies that dominate and eliminate competition - they become a hindrance to low prices and small business
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amazon is becoming a huge monopoly - much like Microsoft was/is - just as rockefeller had his empire carved up by the feds way back when - same should be for these companies that dominate and eliminate competition - they become a hindrance to low prices and small business

He's got competition though, there are some German companies that want to expand into the US market and their prices are less than 1/2 of existing grocery stores.
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amazon is becoming a huge monopoly - much like Microsoft was/is - just as rockefeller had his empire carved up by the feds way back when - same should be for these companies that dominate and eliminate competition - they become a hindrance to low prices and small business

He's got competition though, there are some German companies that want to expand into the US market and their prices are less than 1/2 of existing grocery stores.

but groceries are not only amazon - amazon is almost single handedly putting entire malls and retail stores in general OUT of business
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He's got competition though, there are some German companies that want to expand into the US market and their prices are less than 1/2 of existing grocery stores.

but groceries are not only amazon - amazon is almost single handedly putting entire malls and retail stores in general OUT of business

Yes and in 10 years de-centralized manufacturing will put Amazon out of business.

The only way these tech giants can remain in control is to get regulations passed by government giving them monopolies and pricing cartels.
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but groceries are not only amazon - amazon is almost single handedly putting entire malls and retail stores in general OUT of business

Yes and in 10 years de-centralized manufacturing will put Amazon out of business.

The only way these tech giants can remain in control is to get regulations passed by government giving them monopolies and pricing cartels.

possibly - amazon MIGHT become obsolete - but Bezos already owns a very influential newspaper the washington post and pays for lobbyists - he is in the position to influence and have laws passed for amazons benefit - it is too powerful for the consumer already - in 10 years it may be even worse
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Amazon Buying Whole Paycheck

Now this is an amusing deal.

The entire grocery industry is getting monkey-fisted this morning, with losses of anywhere from 5-12+% (Kroger getting it the worst.)

Cramer is, of course, a spittle-tossing lunatic.

The truth is likely to be something else entirely.

Whole Foods has been called whole paycheck for a good long time, and with good reason. Whole Foods has always been a high cost producer and I have some interesting insights on some of the corporate culture side of things there. There is zero correlation between how Amazon treats its worker drones (e.g. warehouse employees at all levels) and how Whole Foods treats theirs.

Amazon is ridiculously overpaying for the company (~$42 is, I believe, the deal price, which is ~30% over the closing price yesterday) which is the usual practice for M&A like this.

Let's add one other thing to this: Amazon just made themselves a sales tax collector everywhere since they now have "nexus" in essentially ALL states. This has not been true (although it's been creeping in one state at a time) but it just went "all 50 at once" for them and is going to result in increased prices for everything Amazon sells, not just groceries.

I'll give you a prediction here: Whole Foods, under Amazon, either loses the only edge it has, which is the "yuppie" factor or it tries to maintain it and margins collapse at Amazon as a whole due to the spend on integration.

My 2-minute analysis?

Bezos just took his walk on water Wall Street treatment and flushed it down the toilet.

Amazon is going to choke on this one folks but now you know why Amazon was handing out EBT reduced price Prime. They're going to gouge the hell out of EBT card holders at their "newfound" grocery stores.

Bottom line: This is going to, in retrospect, look like the value destruction on the scale of the AOL/Time-Warner deal.

PS: If you work at Whole Foods you can pass one of these, right? WFM doesn't currently drug-test everyone -- Amazon does. Welcome to Amerika associates....

link to image: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?get_gallery=5593

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=232138
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Lmao
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Amazon Buying Whole Paycheck

Now this is an amusing deal.

The entire grocery industry is getting monkey-fisted this morning, with losses of anywhere from 5-12+% (Kroger getting it the worst.)

Cramer is, of course, a spittle-tossing lunatic.

The truth is likely to be something else entirely.

Whole Foods has been called whole paycheck for a good long time, and with good reason. Whole Foods has always been a high cost producer and I have some interesting insights on some of the corporate culture side of things there. There is zero correlation between how Amazon treats its worker drones (e.g. warehouse employees at all levels) and how Whole Foods treats theirs.

Amazon is ridiculously overpaying for the company (~$42 is, I believe, the deal price, which is ~30% over the closing price yesterday) which is the usual practice for M&A like this.

Let's add one other thing to this: Amazon just made themselves a sales tax collector everywhere since they now have "nexus" in essentially ALL states. This has not been true (although it's been creeping in one state at a time) but it just went "all 50 at once" for them and is going to result in increased prices for everything Amazon sells, not just groceries.

I'll give you a prediction here: Whole Foods, under Amazon, either loses the only edge it has, which is the "yuppie" factor or it tries to maintain it and margins collapse at Amazon as a whole due to the spend on integration.

My 2-minute analysis?

Bezos just took his walk on water Wall Street treatment and flushed it down the toilet.

Amazon is going to choke on this one folks but now you know why Amazon was handing out EBT reduced price Prime. They're going to gouge the hell out of EBT card holders at their "newfound" grocery stores.

Bottom line: This is going to, in retrospect, look like the value destruction on the scale of the AOL/Time-Warner deal.

PS: If you work at Whole Foods you can pass one of these, right? WFM doesn't currently drug-test everyone -- Amazon does. Welcome to Amerika associates....

link to image: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?get_gallery=5593

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=232138

Poor Karl, he's right 99.9% of the time but what he says will happen doesn't.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-18-2017 07:50 PM)
Everyone sees this a deflationary move in the grocery sector.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-17...hole-foods


I think it is much more than that. Amazon just bought 431 prime locations to launch drones to sell everything it sells from. These locations are in high income areas. This is a black swan event for markets. A major disruptor.

In layman's terms, what?
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MainStreetFatCat  Wrote: (06-18-2017 08:27 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-18-2017 07:50 PM)
Everyone sees this a deflationary move in the grocery sector.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-17...hole-foods


I think it is much more than that. Amazon just bought 431 prime locations to launch drones to sell everything it sells from. These locations are in high income areas. This is a black swan event for markets. A major disruptor.

In layman's terms, what?

It's coming from Cramer, a known liar and shill. But even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

http://www.nasdaq.com/video/amazon-deal-...46958402b0
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-18-2017 08:33 PM)
MainStreetFatCat  Wrote: (06-18-2017 08:27 PM)
In layman's terms, what?

It's coming from Cramer, a known liar and shill. But even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

http://www.nasdaq.com/video/amazon-deal-...46958402b0

I nearly bought stock in Whole Foods two years ago. Should have, in retrospect.
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MainStreetFatCat  Wrote: (06-18-2017 08:35 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-18-2017 08:33 PM)
It's coming from Cramer, a known liar and shill. But even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

http://www.nasdaq.com/video/amazon-deal-...46958402b0

I nearly bought stock in Whole Foods two years ago. Should have, in retrospect.

Why because the price is crashing?

Lmao
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