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God became Lucifer When...
Just a LOPster
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Post: #31
RE: God became Lucifer When...
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-15-2017 02:47 AM)
Just a LOPster  Wrote: (07-15-2017 02:42 AM)
Yes but look how entwined the dualism illusion is. It is difficult to discern the two as not being one, hence the polarized illusion within which we grasp blindly in the dark.

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Stop thinking. Just observe your thoughts, but don't get pulled into them. That's when you start to discern the truth. Maintain a still mind so that true wisdom can enter. It is the only way. A shortcut!
Still mind what is that? Mine is constantly going. My mind is almost my worst enemy at this point, despite being one of my better assets. Sigh. Life ls all about balance and I am way out of whack these days....

Self-mastery and developing strong will-power and discipline are the only keys to your personal freedom. Master your emotions, your body, your physical strength and your mental clarity. Blade sharpens blade, you must sharpen your very being and temper with love and honor.
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Post: #32
RE: God became Lucifer When...
Just a LOPster  Wrote: (07-15-2017 02:50 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-15-2017 02:47 AM)
Stop thinking. Just observe your thoughts, but don't get pulled into them. That's when you start to discern the truth. Maintain a still mind so that true wisdom can enter. It is the only way. A shortcut!
Still mind what is that? Mine is constantly going. My mind is almost my worst enemy at this point, despite being one of my better assets. Sigh. Life ls all about balance and I am way out of whack these days....

Yes. The mind is active. You have to make choices, but there are times that you MUST set aside to LISTEN. It is the only way. If you can do this, you will become smarter, start to have visions, etc. Your thoughts are not you! Not the real you.
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Post: #33
RE: God became Lucifer When...
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-15-2017 02:55 AM)
Just a LOPster  Wrote: (07-15-2017 02:50 AM)
Still mind what is that? Mine is constantly going. My mind is almost my worst enemy at this point, despite being one of my better assets. Sigh. Life ls all about balance and I am way out of whack these days....

Yes. The mind is active. You have to make choices, but there are times that you MUST set aside to LISTEN. It is the only way. If you can do this, you will become smarter, start to have visions, etc. Your thoughts are not you! Not the real you.

Hugs

I have been trying to make time to learn some stretching and yoga for my sore body. Mind needs a break too, statting to feel ptsd about life in general. Not good....

Self-mastery and developing strong will-power and discipline are the only keys to your personal freedom. Master your emotions, your body, your physical strength and your mental clarity. Blade sharpens blade, you must sharpen your very being and temper with love and honor.
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Post: #34
RE: God became Lucifer When...
Just a LOPster  Wrote: (07-15-2017 03:14 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-15-2017 02:55 AM)
Yes. The mind is active. You have to make choices, but there are times that you MUST set aside to LISTEN. It is the only way. If you can do this, you will become smarter, start to have visions, etc. Your thoughts are not you! Not the real you.

Hugs

I have been trying to make time to learn some stretching and yoga for my sore body. Mind needs a break too, statting to feel ptsd about life in general. Not good....

Still the mind, the body relaxes. That's when you know you're doing it right. Your eyes will even move up to the wisdom center which is between the eyebrows.
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Post: #35
RE: God became Lucifer When...
Just a LOPster  Wrote: (07-15-2017 03:14 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-15-2017 02:55 AM)
Yes. The mind is active. You have to make choices, but there are times that you MUST set aside to LISTEN. It is the only way. If you can do this, you will become smarter, start to have visions, etc. Your thoughts are not you! Not the real you.

Hugs

I have been trying to make time to learn some stretching and yoga for my sore body. Mind needs a break too, statting to feel ptsd about life in general. Not good....

Also, if your body is stiff, you are holding too much in. Thoughts are what cause the body to tense up. Clear the mind, the body will relax.
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Post: #36
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Just a LOPster  Wrote: (07-15-2017 02:50 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-15-2017 02:47 AM)
Stop thinking. Just observe your thoughts, but don't get pulled into them. That's when you start to discern the truth. Maintain a still mind so that true wisdom can enter. It is the only way. A shortcut!
Still mind what is that? Mine is constantly going. My mind is almost my worst enemy at this point, despite being one of my better assets. Sigh. Life ls all about balance and I am way out of whack these days....

sh*t i am on a somehwat tipsy angry roll at religion and practices i realize now, though i have managed to reduce my intake a lot. for fellow people who like me cope with whatever, we can do it just so i have said that.


i have gathered probably 3 to 5 or more books on meditation aswell as having as i said stuided probably most faiths ( sorry mormons and scientologists i learned most about you watching the episodes of southpark that covered the topic)

i read some then i realised that siddartha did not read any of this sh*t and figured why should i adhere to some old ass sh*t wich worked for one guy so i did my own routine wich i kept on for one or two years even though i was working full days, it was work and close to 6 hours of meditation each day.then i slept .

i might be totaly wrong here but i meditate in my own way just like i got my own faith.
there is no way aside from a few tries wich i did out of curiousty im going to sit and repeat mantras when i meditate.
or try to do breathing the way they suggest i do.not sure if this is right but i seem to breathe fine without trying some damn rythm.

since i am on a roll i could diss and hate all i dont like about buddhism here, for instance that siddartha tought he had been so damn nice and whatever in previous lives that he had become a prince to then seek enlightenment and get it etc, only in that faith to realise everything was basicall f**ked and wanting "himself deleted" as a reward from our earthly or universal life as most of it in his eyes where just suffering.

its a rather pessimistic outlook imo.there might be suffering but there is so much good aswell.
we got the bad and the good, with a varying mix whoever we are wich are possibly lifting us up a bit or possibly trying to pull us down.

i am not saying i am a holy person but i have seen so many people on boards like this or on the net claiming enlightenment, talking to angels,refering to themselves as being god being jesus or satan etc you get the point. who say nuttier sh*t than what has landed me in a psych ward 4 times in 7 years.

most meditation books i have read talk about the stuff of observing thoughts and letting them pass or just observing, i have done that.there has also been occasions where i think f*#k no.

maybe its the norseman in me maybe i am just that way , i dont know
or maybe its the inspiration from one of my brothers who is 6 years younger than me who never gave up when we where play fighting even though i had him pinned.

maybe i am caught in a trap, wich is close to some damn lyrics of a song but i am not f*ckin giving up trying to force my own damn mind to play nice with me,it has imo thrown to much sh*t at me over the years so now im trying to force it to not "sh*t on my carpet".

the methaphorical question is if i can train it or if it is like a cat who does whatever it f*ckin pleases and looks cute most of the time.

Emotion, yet peace.
Ignorance, yet knowledge.
Passion, yet serenity.
Chaos, yet harmony.
Death, yet the Force.

"Dovie'andi se tovya sagain."
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Post: #37
RE: God became Lucifer When...
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-15-2017 03:34 AM)
Just a LOPster  Wrote: (07-15-2017 03:14 AM)
Hugs

I have been trying to make time to learn some stretching and yoga for my sore body. Mind needs a break too, statting to feel ptsd about life in general. Not good....

Also, if your body is stiff, you are holding too much in. Thoughts are what cause the body to tense up. Clear the mind, the body will relax.

So impossible to do with so much in my head constantly.

Alarm panels. Surveillance systems. Routers. Switches. PoE. Managed AP's. Distributed audio and video. Lighting and HVAC automation. Water-cops with flood detection. Remote door-locks. Full server racks full of gear for these fancy "smart" homes that I install for people week after week. Now they want to integrate Alexa and/or Google home and whatever other such voice platforms people want. Cortana and Siri will be next I assume.

And all that is on top of the computer repair I have done for over a decade both as an in-house tech and as a freelancer. So there is just so much i there constantly. My brain just wants to explode with all this crap LOL.

So my mind is strong, but also is a double-edged sword. Is a great source of stress and doubt and worry to me as well. And then I come here. No hope. LOL.

Self-mastery and developing strong will-power and discipline are the only keys to your personal freedom. Master your emotions, your body, your physical strength and your mental clarity. Blade sharpens blade, you must sharpen your very being and temper with love and honor.
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Post: #38
RE: God became Lucifer When...
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-15-2017 03:34 AM)
Just a LOPster  Wrote: (07-15-2017 03:14 AM)
Hugs

I have been trying to make time to learn some stretching and yoga for my sore body. Mind needs a break too, statting to feel ptsd about life in general. Not good....

Also, if your body is stiff, you are holding too much in. Thoughts are what cause the body to tense up. Clear the mind, the body will relax.

Happiness is a choice...that you make in your mind. Just choose to be happy anytime a negative thought enters your mind. If there is something you need to do, do it. Do it only for God, though. That's it. Only God. Everything you do, do for God. God is part of your consciousness and also a separate consciousness. Meditation is the key.
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Post: #39
RE: God became Lucifer When...
Just a LOPster  Wrote: (07-15-2017 03:39 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-15-2017 03:34 AM)
Also, if your body is stiff, you are holding too much in. Thoughts are what cause the body to tense up. Clear the mind, the body will relax.

So impossible to do with so much in my head constantly.

Alarm panels. Surveillance systems. Routers. Switches. PoE. Managed AP's. Distributed audio and video. Lighting and HVAC automation. Water-cops with flood detection. Remote door-locks. Full server racks full of gear for these fancy "smart" homes that I install for people week after week. Now they want to integrate Alexa and/or Google home and whatever other such voice platforms people want. Cortana and Siri will be next I assume.

And all that is on top of the computer repair I have done for over a decade both as an in-house tech and as a freelancer. So there is just so much i there constantly. My brain just wants to explode with all this crap LOL.

So my mind is strong, but also is a double-edged sword. Is a great source of stress and doubt and worry to me as well. And then I come here. No hope. LOL.

You think you have to master yourself. Mastery comes from letting go. You do that by ignoring any negative thoughts. By not thing in terms of good or bad, right or wrong. What would you truly like to do?
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Post: #40
RE: God became Lucifer When...
I used to ponder
God and somehow existing through the process of whatever might have
been
since we
seemingly all things being finite
have a beginning
then there may have been a time when he was
sort-of isolated and alone

it can't really be, since he says he has always existed
and hence there was no beginning
but perhaps he explores it in other ways

and it kind-of makes sense that way,
that the first one to show up was a thing God could not stand. Like the entire concept of other living creatures, and their imperfection offended him.
but how could He exist as one forever and there then come about other living beings without him at some point existing alone
or having somehow evolved in a way like the dopes believe the Universe came about.

But lately I have pondered that maybe at some point God got on fire, and in terrible agony and torment
for a really long, long time.
and he has little qualms about demonstrating how it is
to those who make themselves worthy
to be made and example of
but like an instructor
showing them things to avoid
because it results in things like getting on fire of your own account
for a really long time,
perhaps as a matter of boundaries in a finite creation or irresponsibly experimenting with volatile concoctions
in ways he has more to do with rescuing them than actually applying the blowtorch effect.
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Post: #41
RE: God became Lucifer When...
New Age Luciferianism yet again.
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Post: #42
RE: God became Lucifer When...
The only way that existence is possible outside of a singularity of oneness.
Is through the opposing principles of duality, manifested within time.

Through this mortal incarnation, within the manifested physical forces of duality, a unique individual consciousness is realized and evolved.

What happens next is where it becomes interesting.

Do we retain that individuality within a more refined existence, beyond the physical?

Do we return to the oneness, forgetting all that we know about individuality and uniqueness?

Is that even possible?

It should be noted, that you only need to experience an aspect of duality to the point of realization. Once you get it, you get it.
Existence does not care, it will keep providing you with extremes of opposites all the way to destruction.

Consciousness is an ocean from a distance.
A wave from above.
Droplets from within.
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Post: #43
RE: God became Lucifer When...
SM0K3SCR33nnnnnnnnnn  Wrote: (07-15-2017 01:42 AM)
If GOD is infinite... then how can it not be something that is not nothing?

So I heard that God is expressing itself through it creation.

AND Realizing that it is GOD in its creation is of import...

I was talking, forgot the cig I was smoking, I have 2 blisters on my fingers, is that GODs fault or mine? I say mine
GOD made an amazing earth

enjoy it the best you can

"never give up, one drop in the ocean, is still part of the ocean, you matter"

-Ann
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OP People aren't ready for Multi laired Duality GOD!
HUMANS still think of God and The Devil as 2 separate deities!
It is beyond their ability to understand it is one single entity.

You only see one rendition of this concept in movie form!
In: Joan of Arc 1999 Milla Jovovich, John Malkovich, Rab Affleck
Dustin Hoffman as the GOD/Devil as a Single entity, its one of
the last scenes of the movie!



And it was confusing to viewers of all faiths, To perceive GOD and The Devil as one Deity.

[Image: running_panther_by_otonashi_san-d4ct7db.gif] Tantummodo Crede. Просто поверь. Just Believe. ✝ ☧ ☩ ☤ H₂O MDXI
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Post: #45
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Яudis  Wrote: (07-15-2017 05:28 AM)
OP People aren't ready for Multi laired Duality GOD!
HUMANS still think of God and The Devil as 2 separate deities!
It is beyond their ability to understand it is one single entity.

You only see one rendition of this concept in movie form!
In: Joan of Arc 1999 Milla Jovovich, John Malkovich, Rab Affleck
Dustin Hoffman as the GOD/Devil as a Single entity, its one of
the last scenes of the movie!



And it was confusing to viewers of all faiths, To perceive GOD and The Devil as one Deity.






even if you were right

Jesus, in the flesh, like you and I feel pain, gave everything, for you

"never give up, one drop in the ocean, is still part of the ocean, you matter"

-Ann
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