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God became Lucifer When...
Яudis
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I am very well acquainted with GOD. Thank You.
Jesus was a GREAT Roman that Left the World with
a New Belief System that changed history for ever more!

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Post: #47
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Яudis  Wrote: (07-15-2017 05:37 AM)
I am very well acquainted with GOD. Thank You.
Jesus was a GREAT Roman that Left the World with
a New Belief System that changed history for ever more!

like

LOVE GOD, and others


what better belief system is there?

"never give up, one drop in the ocean, is still part of the ocean, you matter"

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Post: #48
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zyx  Wrote: (07-15-2017 03:38 AM)
Just a LOPster  Wrote: (07-15-2017 02:50 AM)
Still mind what is that? Mine is constantly going. My mind is almost my worst enemy at this point, despite being one of my better assets. Sigh. Life ls all about balance and I am way out of whack these days....

sh*t i am on a somehwat tipsy angry roll at religion and practices i realize now, though i have managed to reduce my intake a lot. for fellow people who like me cope with whatever, we can do it just so i have said that.


i have gathered probably 3 to 5 or more books on meditation aswell as having as i said stuided probably most faiths ( sorry mormons and scientologists i learned most about you watching the episodes of southpark that covered the topic)

i read some then i realised that siddartha did not read any of this sh*t and figured why should i adhere to some old ass sh*t wich worked for one guy so i did my own routine wich i kept on for one or two years even though i was working full days, it was work and close to 6 hours of meditation each day.then i slept .

i might be totaly wrong here but i meditate in my own way just like i got my own faith.
there is no way aside from a few tries wich i did out of curiousty im going to sit and repeat mantras when i meditate.
or try to do breathing the way they suggest i do.not sure if this is right but i seem to breathe fine without trying some damn rythm.

since i am on a roll i could diss and hate all i dont like about buddhism here, for instance that siddartha tought he had been so damn nice and whatever in previous lives that he had become a prince to then seek enlightenment and get it etc, only in that faith to realise everything was basicall f**ked and wanting "himself deleted" as a reward from our earthly or universal life as most of it in his eyes where just suffering.

its a rather pessimistic outlook imo.there might be suffering but there is so much good aswell.
we got the bad and the good, with a varying mix whoever we are wich are possibly lifting us up a bit or possibly trying to pull us down.

i am not saying i am a holy person but i have seen so many people on boards like this or on the net claiming enlightenment, talking to angels,refering to themselves as being god being jesus or satan etc you get the point. who say nuttier sh*t than what has landed me in a psych ward 4 times in 7 years.

most meditation books i have read talk about the stuff of observing thoughts and letting them pass or just observing, i have done that.there has also been occasions where i think f*#k no.

maybe its the norseman in me maybe i am just that way , i dont know
or maybe its the inspiration from one of my brothers who is 6 years younger than me who never gave up when we where play fighting even though i had him pinned.

maybe i am caught in a trap, wich is close to some damn lyrics of a song but i am not f*ckin giving up trying to force my own damn mind to play nice with me,it has imo thrown to much sh*t at me over the years so now im trying to force it to not "sh*t on my carpet".

the methaphorical question is if i can train it or if it is like a cat who does whatever it f*ckin pleases and looks cute most of the time.

There is only one way to meditate. Only one way. Ignore the thoughts. It is not complicated. When you meditate, know that God loves you. Loves you! That is all that you need to focus on.
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Like I said OP Religious Humans are not yet evolved enough to perceive GOD and The Devil as a single entity.

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Post: #50
RE: God became Lucifer When...
zyx  Wrote: (07-15-2017 03:38 AM)
Just a LOPster  Wrote: (07-15-2017 02:50 AM)
Still mind what is that? Mine is constantly going. My mind is almost my worst enemy at this point, despite being one of my better assets. Sigh. Life ls all about balance and I am way out of whack these days....

sh*t i am on a somehwat tipsy angry roll at religion and practices i realize now, though i have managed to reduce my intake a lot. for fellow people who like me cope with whatever, we can do it just so i have said that.


i have gathered probably 3 to 5 or more books on meditation aswell as having as i said stuided probably most faiths ( sorry mormons and scientologists i learned most about you watching the episodes of southpark that covered the topic)

i read some then i realised that siddartha did not read any of this sh*t and figured why should i adhere to some old ass sh*t wich worked for one guy so i did my own routine wich i kept on for one or two years even though i was working full days, it was work and close to 6 hours of meditation each day.then i slept .

i might be totaly wrong here but i meditate in my own way just like i got my own faith.
there is no way aside from a few tries wich i did out of curiousty im going to sit and repeat mantras when i meditate.
or try to do breathing the way they suggest i do.not sure if this is right but i seem to breathe fine without trying some damn rythm.

since i am on a roll i could diss and hate all i dont like about buddhism here, for instance that siddartha tought he had been so damn nice and whatever in previous lives that he had become a prince to then seek enlightenment and get it etc, only in that faith to realise everything was basicall f**ked and wanting "himself deleted" as a reward from our earthly or universal life as most of it in his eyes where just suffering.

its a rather pessimistic outlook imo.there might be suffering but there is so much good aswell.
we got the bad and the good, with a varying mix whoever we are wich are possibly lifting us up a bit or possibly trying to pull us down.

i am not saying i am a holy person but i have seen so many people on boards like this or on the net claiming enlightenment, talking to angels,refering to themselves as being god being jesus or satan etc you get the point. who say nuttier sh*t than what has landed me in a psych ward 4 times in 7 years.

most meditation books i have read talk about the stuff of observing thoughts and letting them pass or just observing, i have done that.there has also been occasions where i think f*#k no.

maybe its the norseman in me maybe i am just that way , i dont know
or maybe its the inspiration from one of my brothers who is 6 years younger than me who never gave up when we where play fighting even though i had him pinned.

maybe i am caught in a trap, wich is close to some damn lyrics of a song but i am not f*ckin giving up trying to force my own damn mind to play nice with me,it has imo thrown to much sh*t at me over the years so now im trying to force it to not "sh*t on my carpet".

the methaphorical question is if i can train it or if it is like a cat who does whatever it f*ckin pleases and looks cute most of the time.



This is true meditation. You don't actually think f*#k no, it is just another thought that appears that should be observed and let pass. This is not you rebelling, but the mind rebelling. The more you watch your thoughts pass, the less thoughts you have appearing. This is the practice, being able to notice each thought that appears so the mind chatter does not have a chance to take over because the act of just watching them slows them down.

You also get to realize that you are not really the thinker, but actually the watcher. The watcher is the tool necessary to learn all the tricks of the mind. Many people spend their lives believing they are the thinker. If you want to know what you really are, get to know the watcher.

Mantras are another way of stopping the mind chatter temporarily. No other thoughts can occur while you are repeating a mantra. Do it long enough and it will start repeating on its own, but this is not a cure, more like just a band aid.
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maybe you aren't evolved enough to know GOD can do anything HE wants

and HE CHOSE LOVE

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Post: #53
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Яudis  Wrote: (07-15-2017 06:16 AM)
Like I said OP Religious Humans are not yet evolved enough to perceive GOD and The Devil as a single entity.

What is the devil???

Illusion is no part of God. No part!
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Post: #54
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PopEye  Wrote: (07-15-2017 01:49 AM)
There is no god.

There is no lucifer.

There are stupid people.

If the story was written in the spirit it exists. Old Stan got the egypto treatment. Old Stan is more of a meat and potatoes serial spirit slayer but retirement regardless of what they say or attempt. He even put a snazzy invisible "retired" logo on his backpack with a sniper rifle and a sword. It's okay because it's not real and old Stan is retired. The knowledge though is an issue.
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Post: #55
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Яudis  Wrote: (07-15-2017 05:28 AM)
OP People aren't ready for Multi laired Duality GOD!
HUMANS still think of God and The Devil as 2 separate deities!
It is beyond their ability to understand it is one single entity.

You only see one rendition of this concept in movie form!
In: Joan of Arc 1999 Milla Jovovich, John Malkovich, Rab Affleck
Dustin Hoffman as the GOD/Devil as a Single entity, its one of
the last scenes of the movie!



And it was confusing to viewers of all faiths, To perceive GOD and The Devil as one Deity.

Bingo, you hit the nail on the head. God and Lucifer are one and the same. At least from where we stand. To live we must die. Life is death. Life is murder. We are born into a death sentence. All of us.

Over and over and over again.

Life is also fraught with much pain and suffering. Life is definitely a Luciferean construct.

So the god of this realm is Lucifer no doubt. Lucifer is Yahweh, Jesus, and any other form it needs to be to manipulate the living as it sees fit.

GOD, the thing everyone thinks they are worshiping (that is actually Lucifer), GOD is a thing beyond existence. It exists by not existing. But I believe for that to be possible, all creation must exist apart from it yet, yet all flows from it. The White Hole of Creation.

chuckle

Self-mastery and developing strong will-power and discipline are the only keys to your personal freedom. Master your emotions, your body, your physical strength and your mental clarity. Blade sharpens blade, you must sharpen your very being and temper with love and honor.
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Post: #56
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So God is constantly spewing forth a viod, an empty canvas of infinite possibilities, and Lucifer pierces it with Light and form and stars and planets.

Lucy, in the sky, with diamonds. As it were. chuckle

Self-mastery and developing strong will-power and discipline are the only keys to your personal freedom. Master your emotions, your body, your physical strength and your mental clarity. Blade sharpens blade, you must sharpen your very being and temper with love and honor.
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Post: #57
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Interesting how in the God's of Egypt movie, the portray the God void-canvas anomaly as a destructive force. Ra, the Sun God who I assume must be Lucifer (in this context) keeps the Destructive void-worm at bay with his arrow of fire (light).

So of course Hollywood always trying to make God the void da bad guy and Lucy the light-swinging flaming-sword-wielding hero of order and goodness, da good guy.

Popcorn

Self-mastery and developing strong will-power and discipline are the only keys to your personal freedom. Master your emotions, your body, your physical strength and your mental clarity. Blade sharpens blade, you must sharpen your very being and temper with love and honor.
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AnnRamon7  Wrote: (07-15-2017 08:07 AM)
maybe you aren't evolved enough to know GOD can do anything HE wants and HE CHOSE LOVE
Awh but OP's assertion is that GOD and The Devil are One in the same!
But Humans Currently perceive God and the Devil as 2 separate Deities,
One above and one below!

SO its not about what GOD can or cant do!
Its about what HUMANSD can or cant do!

And Currently HUMANS lack the ability to perceive
GOD and The Devil as one in the same!

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Post: #59
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Яudis  Wrote: (07-15-2017 06:39 PM)
AnnRamon7  Wrote: (07-15-2017 08:07 AM)
maybe you aren't evolved enough to know GOD can do anything HE wants and HE CHOSE LOVE
Awh but OP's assertion is that GOD and The Devil are One in the same!
But Humans Currently perceive God and the Devil as 2 separate Deities,
One above and one below!

SO its not about what GOD can or cant do!
Its about what HUMANSD can or cant do!

And Currently HUMANS lack the ability to perceive
GOD and The Devil as one in the same!

Mostly it is tripe produced by the discursive faculties of the mind rather than the higher faculties of intuition, recognition or Identity. Intuition leads to self discovery. Recognition and Identity don't really function until after that. Discursive faculties depend on arguing relatives and pair of opposites, what we generally refer to as reason. Know thyself first is key to the higher faculties and the self cannot be discovered in books or stories. It is done by intuitively observing ones thoughts, emotions and actions. The rule is always after observing oneself, observe some more. There is really no end to deepening this process.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-15-2017 06:56 PM)
Яudis  Wrote: (07-15-2017 06:39 PM)
Awh but OP's assertion is that GOD and The Devil are One in the same!
But Humans Currently perceive God and the Devil as 2 separate Deities,
One above and one below!

SO its not about what GOD can or cant do!
Its about what HUMANSD can or cant do!

And Currently HUMANS lack the ability to perceive
GOD and The Devil as one in the same!

Mostly it is tripe produced by the discursive faculties of the mind rather than the higher faculties of intuition, recognition or Identity. Intuition leads to self discovery. Recognition and Identity don't really function until after that. Discursive faculties depend on arguing relatives and pair of opposites, what we generally refer to as reason. Know thyself first is key to the higher faculties and the self cannot be discovered in books or stories. It is done by intuitively observing ones thoughts, emotions and actions. The rule is always after observing oneself, observe some more. There is really no end to deepening this process.
The Place to start is:
I Know Nothing, then proceed from there!

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