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God became Lucifer When...
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RE: God became Lucifer When...
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Just a LOPster  Wrote: (07-15-2017 01:38 AM)
When he became aware of himself. First, there was the perfection. The all flowing well-spring of pure creation. From whence all things came. INCLUDING---> The awareness of that infinite well of energy and creation.

But something cannot be one thing and still be something else. So when the awareness was created, it had to, by function, become separated from the wellspring itself. This, became Lucifer. The self-awareness of God. The ego of the source if you will.

Hence Lucifer then created this realm in a fractal microcosm of the original source birth and awareness separation.

As it is in heaven above, so it is in earth below.

Lucifer then created a realm where he could not exist, but he could influence from the outside. Just as the source birthed a separate ego that was aware of the source yet had to be separated from it.

So Lucifer, made this creation but could not be in it. But, what will be the doom of this realm is when he is able to break through the gate of non-existence into existence, and thus the wheel of time is broken and causal reality no longer is able to function in proper form.

This of course becomes the source for Lucifer's power. without naturally functioning laws, no cause needs to honored by any effect in order to exist, and thus anyone alive at this time would experience a hellish existence. Literally the End Times, as it would be the end to chronological time.

Perhaps that is the sacred principle that truly makes the source of creation so pure and true. It never creates two of the same thing. Every moment, every instance, every molecule in motion in the universe. combine to form a kind of unique molecular time-stamp. This ensures no two instances are the same throughout all of existence, to protect a sort of referential integrity for all moments in time.

Otherwise, how else could you differentiate between one moment in time, and the next? It must be managed at some level by a universal infinite mind-well. A white-hole of infinite energy/knowledge/information that is constantly spewing forth unique moments in time, each that are each slightly different from one another by some water mark embedded in physicality. And each moment in a way defines the next as well as the ones before it, to create the mesh of moments and particles that make up every second we exist.

Is, my thoughts on the subject anyways Popcorn

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why would one exchange steak for deepfried pizza..?




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Post: #62
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Just a LOPster  Wrote: (07-15-2017 06:14 PM)
So God is constantly spewing forth a viod, an empty canvas of infinite possibilities, and Lucifer pierces it with Light and form and stars and planets.

Lucy, in the sky, with diamonds. As it were. chuckle

when are you going to comprehend you are a god in formation meaning a very young SON? God the Father is all the Intelligent life essentially and well more. You are part of that.

Nature is returning to equilibrium, the only thing being destroyed was never real to begin with - an artifice that has inevitably lost its hold on the hearts and minds of men. Some wait for the end, others give birth to the new.


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The Hermit  Wrote: (07-15-2017 05:09 AM)
The only way that existence is possible outside of a singularity of oneness.
Is through the opposing principles of duality, manifested within time.

Through this mortal incarnation, within the manifested physical forces of duality, a unique individual consciousness is realized and evolved.

What happens next is where it becomes interesting.

Do we retain that individuality within a more refined existence, beyond the physical?

Do we return to the oneness, forgetting all that we know about individuality and uniqueness?

Is that even possible?

It should be noted, that you only need to experience an aspect of duality to the point of realization. Once you get it, you get it.
Existence does not care, it will keep providing you with extremes of opposites all the way to destruction.

A singularity is computer oneness expressed in Star Trek as a Borg. God is not a singularity. The NWO w hich will not succeed.. is a BORG

Nature is returning to equilibrium, the only thing being destroyed was never real to begin with - an artifice that has inevitably lost its hold on the hearts and minds of men. Some wait for the end, others give birth to the new.


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Post: #64
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Planetary Christ KAN DAEK  Wrote: (07-15-2017 08:18 PM)
Just a LOPster  Wrote: (07-15-2017 06:14 PM)

when are you going to comprehend you are a god in formation meaning a very young SON? God the Father is all the Intelligent life essentially and well more. You are part of that.

when are you going to comprehend that YOU ARE NOT A GOD, NOT A CHRIST, AND NEVER WILL BE?

the gawd you serve is SATAN/michael aton. and he is nobody's father. period.
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Яudis  Wrote: (07-15-2017 08:12 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-15-2017 06:56 PM)
Mostly it is tripe produced by the discursive faculties of the mind rather than the higher faculties of intuition, recognition or Identity. Intuition leads to self discovery. Recognition and Identity don't really function until after that. Discursive faculties depend on arguing relatives and pair of opposites, what we generally refer to as reason. Know thyself first is key to the higher faculties and the self cannot be discovered in books or stories. It is done by intuitively observing ones thoughts, emotions and actions. The rule is always after observing oneself, observe some more. There is really no end to deepening this process.
The Place to start is:
I Know Nothing, then proceed from there!

Exactly.
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Post: #66
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-15-2017 02:28 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-15-2017 02:26 AM)
In "Reality" GOD can not be Theorized.

Good Luck with that tho Heartflowers chuckle

Ok here goes....

"God is a circle whose center is everywhere and circumference is no where."

Later.
Wow!

You got it!

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Post: #67
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Яudis  Wrote: (07-15-2017 06:39 PM)
AnnRamon7  Wrote: (07-15-2017 08:07 AM)
maybe you aren't evolved enough to know GOD can do anything HE wants and HE CHOSE LOVE
Awh but OP's assertion is that GOD and The Devil are One in the same!
But Humans Currently perceive God and the Devil as 2 separate Deities,
One above and one below!

SO its not about what GOD can or cant do!
Its about what HUMANSD can or cant do!

And Currently HUMANS lack the ability to perceive
GOD and The Devil as one in the same!

God and the devil are most certainly NOT one and the same.

Nature is returning to equilibrium, the only thing being destroyed was never real to begin with - an artifice that has inevitably lost its hold on the hearts and minds of men. Some wait for the end, others give birth to the new.


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Post: #68
RE: God became Lucifer When...
Planetary Christ KAN DAEK  Wrote: (07-15-2017 11:46 PM)
Яudis  Wrote: (07-15-2017 06:39 PM)
Awh but OP's assertion is that GOD and The Devil are One in the same!
But Humans Currently perceive God and the Devil as 2 separate Deities,
One above and one below!

SO its not about what GOD can or cant do!
Its about what HUMANSD can or cant do!

And Currently HUMANS lack the ability to perceive
GOD and The Devil as one in the same!

God and the devil are most certainly NOT one and the same.

you are correct, but bear in mind the devil/michael aton/lucifer/satan are all one and the same
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Post: #69
RE: God became Lucifer When...
Uncle Mikey  Wrote: (07-15-2017 09:39 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-15-2017 02:28 AM)
Ok here goes....

"God is a circle whose center is everywhere and circumference is no where."

Later.
Wow!

You got it!

link to image: http://i.imgur.com/IVYufWW.png

The Holy Spirit is the feminine aspect of God. The Holy Spirit Mother.
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Post: #70
RE: God became Lucifer When...
Planetary Christ KAN DAEK  Wrote: (07-15-2017 08:19 PM)
The Hermit  Wrote: (07-15-2017 05:09 AM)
The only way that existence is possible outside of a singularity of oneness.
Is through the opposing principles of duality, manifested within time.

Through this mortal incarnation, within the manifested physical forces of duality, a unique individual consciousness is realized and evolved.

What happens next is where it becomes interesting.

Do we retain that individuality within a more refined existence, beyond the physical?

Do we return to the oneness, forgetting all that we know about individuality and uniqueness?

Is that even possible?

It should be noted, that you only need to experience an aspect of duality to the point of realization. Once you get it, you get it.
Existence does not care, it will keep providing you with extremes of opposites all the way to destruction.

A singularity is computer oneness expressed in Star Trek as a Borg. God is not a singularity. The NWO w hich will not succeed.. is a BORG
Do you even understand that I am referring to consciousness?

Consciousness is an ocean from a distance.
A wave from above.
Droplets from within.
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Just a LOPster  Wrote: (07-15-2017 01:38 AM)
When he became aware of himself. First, there was the perfection. The all flowing well-spring of pure creation. From whence all things came. INCLUDING---> The awareness of that infinite well of energy and creation.

But something cannot be one thing and still be something else. So when the awareness was created, it had to, by function, become separated from the wellspring itself. This, became Lucifer. The self-awareness of God. The ego of the source if you will.

Hence Lucifer then created this realm in a fractal microcosm of the original source birth and awareness separation.

As it is in heaven above, so it is in earth below.

Lucifer then created a realm where he could not exist, but he could influence from the outside. Just as the source birthed a separate ego that was aware of the source yet had to be separated from it.

So Lucifer, made this creation but could not be in it. But, what will be the doom of this realm is when he is able to break through the gate of non-existence into existence, and thus the wheel of time is broken and causal reality no longer is able to function in proper form.

This of course becomes the source for Lucifer's power. without naturally functioning laws, no cause needs to honored by any effect in order to exist, and thus anyone alive at this time would experience a hellish existence. Literally the End Times, as it would be the end to chronological time.

Perhaps that is the sacred principle that truly makes the source of creation so pure and true. It never creates two of the same thing. Every moment, every instance, every molecule in motion in the universe. combine to form a kind of unique molecular time-stamp. This ensures no two instances are the same throughout all of existence, to protect a sort of referential integrity for all moments in time.

Otherwise, how else could you differentiate between one moment in time, and the next? It must be managed at some level by a universal infinite mind-well. A white-hole of infinite energy/knowledge/information that is constantly spewing forth unique moments in time, each that are each slightly different from one another by some water mark embedded in physicality. And each moment in a way defines the next as well as the ones before it, to create the mesh of moments and particles that make up every second we exist.

Is, my thoughts on the subject anyways Popcorn


Well, Lucifer is not a being, it's a title. The only time it's used in the bible is when referencing the King of Babylon.

Lucifer means Light Bearer, Light Bringer, Day Star, or Bright Morning Star.


The rebellion was most likely was staged, what group of angels would ever rebel against an all powerful being?

And "Lucifer" was said to be the Seal of Perfection, The Chief Messenger of Heaven. He was the anointed cherub. He was above all but GOD ALMIGHTY.

We don't know this angel's name, Jewish tradition points it to Sammael which means Venom of God.

Either way, Jesus is the Lucifer right now.

Jesus says it Himself in the book of revelation that He is Alpha and Omega and the Bright Morning Star.

Again, Lucifer means light bearer, or day star.


Jesus says he will give that title to someone else.

That someone else,

1.) Receives the name of GOD
2.) Receives Jesus' New Name
3.) Is given the New Jerusalem
4.) Rules the nations with a rod of iron and smashes them to bits
5.) Will sit down on the throne of GOD just as Jesus did
6.) Will receive the title "Bright Morning Star"


He is the person referenced in Revelation 2 and Revelation 3, in the letters to the seven churches.

It's my belief it's either Michael the Archangel as referenced in Daniel 12, for the end times, or that this individual will be GOD Himself.

He might be the Father, He might be the Son Jesus. Maybe the Father and Son are the same being, like Isaiah 9:6 says about Jesus being the Everlasting Father. Maybe Father and Son is like Alpha and Omega, Jesus is both He says.


Either way,

for a person to receive all that AND Jesus Christ's new name? He's got to be GOD.


So yes, God the Son is the Lucifer or Light Bearer, and God the Father, or God the Spirit, is the light itself.

The Book of Revelation confirms this, it states God will be the light and the lamb will be the lamp or light bearer.


People don't know their bibles, Lucifer is not an angel's name. ALL names of Angels bear the insignia of GOD, EL, ELOHIM. All angels have the suffix "el" in them.

Archangels, Michael, Gabriel, Raphel, Uriel, Remiel, Raguel, Sariel.


Azazel was said to be one of the highest ranking, most beautiful angels, he fell second in command with satan, most likely Sammael.


My 2 cents.

I could go in really deep detail about all the topics I covered but it would take me an hour or two to express it right.
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Azazel
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/2203-azazel

Lucifer
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articl...77-lucifer

Jewish Encyclopedia says Lucifer's name might have been Helel, meaning Brilliant One.

Michael
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articl...79-michael

Gabriel
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/6450-gabriel



It's my belief that Jesus is Michael, whose name means "Who is like unto God" or "Who is as God".

The Spirit had one son, and through that son he made all that was.

Spirit needed a form, so it formed The Word, or Logos, or Body.

Then through The Word it created all ranks and positions in heaven.

Helel was probably the anointed cherub to be in the presence of God.

The covering cherub. A covering cherub is arguably the highest position in heaven besides God. Their wings block the infinite glory of God from destroying everything from His Awesome Presence and through their spirit they control when the glory of God shines.

There are the Seraphim, the Cherubim, the Archangels, Powers, Principalities, Thrones, and Dominions, and Angels.

That's the ranking order in heaven I believe.

It'll be a little different in the new heaven though.

You'll have the 24 elders who will be the heavenly court's high council. Almost like the highest ranking Jedi's in Star Wars. These 24 elders will most like be people like Billy Graham, Spurgeon, David Wilkerson... the most prominent preachers that saved millions through the gospel.

Plus there is a mystery that God will be getting married to a woman as referenced in Psalm 45. So there will be a Queen of Heaven as well, something that has never been.

Lots of changes coming to heaven soon. Soon this earth will be no more, as well as the universe, and the new heaven and new earth that God fearing believers know will manifest in it's own particular manner.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-16-2017 04:27 AM)
Uncle Mikey  Wrote: (07-15-2017 09:39 PM)
Wow!

You got it!

link to image: http://i.imgur.com/IVYufWW.png

The Holy Spirit is the feminine aspect of God. The Holy Spirit Mother.

Wrong, the Holy Spirit is not "male" or "female", and can behave like a mother or father, but typically the Spirit comes as The Father of Creation.

When he speaks to your heart, it's always male, with authority. When he reveals prophecies, always male, when he jokes or makes time with me, most of the time it's like a male a few years older than me.

When I'm sick, depressed, or in a really bad place, sometimes The Spirit will come like a female with a calming voice.


If you listen hard enough, you will see all this too.

Same God, different aspects.

God has seven spirits, personified by the seven archangels who rule over the seven churches.
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Planetary Christ KAN DAEK  Wrote: (07-15-2017 11:46 PM)
Яudis  Wrote: (07-15-2017 06:39 PM)
Awh but OP's assertion is that GOD and The Devil are One in the same!
But Humans Currently perceive God and the Devil as 2 separate Deities,
One above and one below!

SO its not about what GOD can or cant do!
Its about what HUMANSD can or cant do!

And Currently HUMANS lack the ability to perceive
GOD and The Devil as one in the same!
God and the devil are most certainly NOT one and the same.
OH YAH, SIN a GREAT SIN and See HOW GOD Reacts!
YourAss will be TOASTE!

God and Devil are Most certainly one in the same!
Duality is the Key here!

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