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Fmr. Congressional staffer confirms “thermonuclear device” detonated @ WTC on 911
NormalIsSubjective

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RE: Fmr. Congressional staffer confirms “thermonuclear device” detonated @ WTC on 911
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Planetary Lawd Yes! Gawd  Wrote: (07-16-2017 07:52 PM)
pooky  Wrote: (07-16-2017 07:42 PM)
My family still believes the towers were taken down by some guys with box cutters.
I asked my dad what he thought about the 7 building going down, he didn't even know what I was talking about. All Hillary voters. And I'm considered the 'weirdo' in the family.

Building 7 had a raging fire on the lower floors and probably had its support columns severely weakened by the seismic shock from the collapse of the Twin Towers.

Because it says so right there on the handout you were given.
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RE: Fmr. Congressional staffer confirms “thermonuclear device” detonated @ WTC on 911
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-16-2017 10:03 PM)
Bsflag Well, where do I begin?

The story (which OPie just copied without even reading it) didn't say that Ms Lindauer confirmed anything.


You should engage the brain before putting your foot in your mouth. One of us did not read the very short story.

Quote:But more importantly, Lindauer admits that her CIA handler Richard Fuisz told her not to return to New York City in September of 2001 and that it would be ‘far too dangerous’ to do so due to the fact that the ‘imminent’ detonation of a miniature thermonuclear device’ was expected.
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RE: Fmr. Congressional staffer confirms “thermonuclear device” detonated @ WTC on 911
I know this is Rense, but interesting in it's own way. But I have seen this in other places. The signatures were removed from USGS records not long after 9/11

New Seismic Data Refutes Official WTC Explanation

Two unexplained "spikes" in the seismic record from Sept. 11 indicate huge bursts of energy shook the ground beneath the World Trade Center's twin towers immediately prior to the collapse.
American Free Press has learned of pools of "molten steel" found at the base of the collapsed twin towers weeks after the collapse. Although the energy source for these incredibly hot areas has yet to be explained, New York seismometers recorded huge bursts of energy, which caused unexplained seismic "spikes" at the beginning of each collapse.
...............................
.....The Palisades seismic data recorded a 2.1 magnitude earthquake during the 10-second collapse of the South Tower at 9:59:04 and a 2.3 quake during the 8-second collapse of the North Tower at 10:28:31.

However, the Palisades seismic record shows that-as the collapses began-a huge seismic "spike" marked the moment the greatest energy went into the ground. The strongest jolts were all registered at the beginning of the collapses, well before the falling debris struck the Earth.

These unexplained "spikes" in the seismic data lend credence to the theory that massive explosions at the base of the towers caused the collapses. ..

http://www.rense.com/general28/ioff.htm

9/11 Firefighters Reveal Bombs Destroyed WTC lobby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1zED8dy63w

NYFD say Explosives brought down Towers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlAkF7E2nCs
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beermug RE: Fmr. Congressional staffer confirms “thermonuclear device” detonated @ WTC on 911
I think at this point, it's obvious people were duped. That there was more involved in this event than we know. The gov is NOT your friend. They have one purpose and that is to maintain and grow. At whatever cost.
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RE: Fmr. Congressional staffer confirms “thermonuclear device” detonated @ WTC on 911
9/11 WTC GROUND ZERO = NUCLEAR EVENT Minimum Residual Radiation Underground Atomic Detonations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3pBM5TAboI

The concrete was pulverized....by "what"???
The towers fell as a fountain of pulverized concrete....
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NormalIsSubjective

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RE: Fmr. Congressional staffer confirms “thermonuclear device” detonated @ WTC on 911
He Man  Wrote: (07-16-2017 08:07 PM)
pooky  Wrote: (07-16-2017 07:42 PM)
My family still believes the towers were taken down by some guys with box cutters.
I asked my dad what he thought about the 7 building going down, he didn't even know what I was talking about. All Hillary voters. And I'm considered the 'weirdo' in the family.

Well for what it's worth, I voted for Hillary, (after Bernie dropped out). And I believe there were many strange things about the whole 9/11 series of event. I do think those are real jet passenger planes hitting the two WT towers. Do you pooky?

What brought them down is the fires and the melted aluminum and the jet fuel burning. The Israeli "art students" (MOSSAD AGENTS) filming the towers burning from atop the white van, is also something that needs to be better covered by media.

Israel clearly knew the attack was coming they had been following the guys with "box cutters" for many months all over the US. Why did the US keep Israel as a "friend and ally" if they knew and said nothing to US IC about the pending attack? Strange days back then in 2001, we are still living in those strange days,.....

Building 7, is much more strange, and the pentagon and the lack of more video evidence of the object that hit it and the photos from right after the impact before that wall/building facade came down, is really strange.

Anyway thought you should know that many "liberals" and democratic party voters are 9/11 curious and skeptical.

"Following" them?

Don't be silly.


They were training them, HM:

August 20, 2001: 9/11 Hijacker Hanjour Passes Check Ride, but Apparently Does Not Obtain Certification

9/11 hijacker Hani Hanjour successfully conducts “a challenging certification flight supervised by an instructor at Congressional Air Charters of Gaithersburg, Maryland, landing at a small airport with a difficult approach,” according to the 9/11 Commission Report. The instructor, Eddie Shalev, thinks that “Hanjour may have had training from a military pilot because he used a terrain recognition system for navigation.” However, it is unclear what certification the 9/11 Commission thinks Hanjour receives. [9/11 Commission, 7/24/2004, pp. 248, 531] Shalev is an Israeli national and has a military background... http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp...e_shalev_1

How the FBI and 9/11 Commission Suppressed Key Evidence about Hani Hanjour, alleged hijack pilot of AAL 77

By Mark H. Gaffney, July 07, 2009

The evidence was crucial because it undermined the official explanation that Hani Hanjour crashed American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon at high speed after executing an extremely difficult top gun maneuver. But to understand how all of this played out, let us review the case in bite-size pieces...

[...]

So, Who is Eddie Shalev?


The record compiled by the FBI for the purpose of to authenticating Hani Hanjour‘s flight skills fails to provide convincing substantiation. Notice, for this reason it also fails to support the testimony of the other flight instructor, Eddie Shalev, who certified Hanjour to rent a Cessna 172 from Congressional Air Charters just three days after Marcel Bernard, the chief instructor at Freeway, refused to rent Hanjour the very same plane. The 9/11 Commission Report makes no mention of the incident at Freeway airport, nor does it discuss Eddie Shalev, other than alluding to Hanjour’s certification flight in a brief endnote. This is curious, since it now appears that Shalev’s testimony was crucial. By telling the commission what it was predisposed to hear, Shalev gave the official investigation an excuse to ignore the preponderance of evidence, which pointed to the unthinkable.


So, who is Eddie Shalev? His identity remained unknown for more than seven years, but was finally revealed in one of the files released in January 2009 by the National Archives. The document, labelled a “Memorandum for the Record,” is a summary of the April 2004 interview with Eddie Shalev conducted by commission staffer Quinn John Tamm.[32] The document confirms that Shalev went on record: “Mr Shalev stated that based on his observations Hanjour was a ‘good’ pilot.” It is noteworthy that Tamm also spoke with Freeway instructors Sheri Baxter and Ben Conner, as revealed by yet another recently-released document.[33] Although I was unable to reach Tamm or Baxter for comment, I did talk with Conner, who confirmed the conversation.[34] Conner says he fully expected to testify before the commission. Perhaps not surprisingly, the call never came.

But the shocker is the revelation that Eddie Shalev is an Israeli and served in the Israeli army. The file states that “Mr. Shalev served in the Israeli Defense Forces in a paratroop regiment. He was a jumpmaster on a Boeing C-130. Mr. Shalev moved to the Gaithersburg area in April 2001 and was sponsored for employment by Congressional Air Charters...[which] has subsequently gone out of business.”


The memorandum raises disturbing questions. Consider the staffer’s strange choice of words in describing Shalev’s employment. What did Quinn John Tamm mean when he wrote that Shalev “was sponsored for employment”? Did the commission bother to investigate Congressional Air Charters? It is curious that the charter service subsequently went out of business. But the most important question is: just how thoroughly, if at all, did the commission vet Eddie Shalev? Does his military record include service in the Israeli intelligence community?

Real people have known addresses. But the whereabouts of Eddie Shalev has been unknown for years. As reported by David Griffin, a 2007 search of the national telephone directory, plus Google searches by research librarian Elizabeth Woodworth, turned up no trace of him. A LexisNexis search by Matthew Everett also came up dry.[35] Recent searches by Woodworth and myself indicate that an "Eddy Shalev" resided in Rockville, Maryland as recently as 2007. However, the associated phone number is no longer in service. The 9/11 memorandum raises the possibility that Shalev may have returned to Israel. Clearly, the man needs to be found, subpoenaed and made to testify under oath before a new investigation, even if this necessitates extradition. Quinn John Tamm and the two Freeway instructors, Sheri Baxter and Ben Conner, should also be subpoenaed. All are key witnesses and obvious starting points for a new 9/11 investigation... http://www.informationclearinghouse.info...e22999.htm

Al Qaeda’s Top Gun

By Jeremy R. Hammond, Apr 17, 2010

An examination of the documentary record reveals a clear pattern of willful deception on the part of the 9/11 Commission with regard to alleged hijacker Hani Hanjour in an apparent effort to manipulate the facts to suit the official theory... https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/201.../view-all/
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-16-2017 10:05 PM)
This is too weird for words. Did anybody witness a nuclear blast? I don't think so.

Or if it was so small you couldn't see it was actually a nuclear blast, I think this means that in order to obtain such a small explosion, the amount needed for attaining critical mass would probably be too much. So there couldn't even be a nuclear explosion.


I do not claim to know all the technologies that could be used. What I think I know:

1) One one the twin towers had a molten metal plume spewing out the side
2) The dustification of the twins was not like anything I have seen
3) I'm told that tritium has been detected
4) AE911truth says that a nano thermite has been detected
5) A worker in the basement was flash fried by an explosion


#1 and #4 suggests thermite
#5 suggest explosives
#2 and #3 suggests a nuclear process
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RE: Fmr. Congressional staffer confirms “thermonuclear device” detonated @ WTC on 911
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-16-2017 11:23 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-16-2017 10:03 PM)
Bsflag Well, where do I begin?

The story (which OPie just copied without even reading it) didn't say that Ms Lindauer confirmed anything.


You should engage the brain before putting your foot in your mouth. One of us did not read the very short story.

Quote:But more importantly, Lindauer admits that her CIA handler Richard Fuisz told her not to return to New York City in September of 2001 and that it would be ‘far too dangerous’ to do so due to the fact that the ‘imminent’ detonation of a miniature thermonuclear device’ was expected.

I would hardly call that a "confirmation". The woman was a jailed felon who was adjudged mentally incapable of defending herself. She claims that her "handler" (who, by the way, never said he was her "handler" or even that she had a "handler") told her something, and we're supposed to accept that as some sort of corroboration? Hardly!

If she "confirmed" that Fuisz said all this, what does Fuisz himself say? Sounds like she pulled the whole thing out of her flower sphincter.

Fighting ignorance -- one ignoramus at a time.
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RE: Fmr. Congressional staffer confirms “thermonuclear device” detonated @ WTC on 911
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-16-2017 11:33 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-16-2017 10:05 PM)
This is too weird for words. Did anybody witness a nuclear blast? I don't think so.

Or if it was so small you couldn't see it was actually a nuclear blast, I think this means that in order to obtain such a small explosion, the amount needed for attaining critical mass would probably be too much. So there couldn't even be a nuclear explosion.


I do not claim to know all the technologies that could be used. What I think I know:

1) One one the twin towers had a molten metal plume spewing out the side
2) The dustification of the twins was not like anything I have seen
3) I'm told that tritium has been detected
4) AE911truth says that a nano thermite has been detected
5) A worker in the basement was flash fried by an explosion


#1 and #4 suggests thermite
#5 suggest explosives
#2 and #3 suggests a nuclear process


Forgot to add -- video shows squibs from explosives.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-16-2017 07:21 PM)
Fmr. Congressional staffer confirms “thermonuclear device” detonated at WTC on 9/11
By Shepard Ambellas
07.16.2017

(INTELLIHUB) — Former U.S. Congressional staffer Susan Lindauer said that she was told by a trusted contact of hers in the intelligence community that three suspicious white vans arrived at the World Trade Center just days before the Sept. 11 attack.

The vans were likely from the Office of Secure Transport (OST) which is managed by the U. S. Department of Energy’s National Nuclear Security Administration and is responsible for the safe and secure transport of nuclear munitions.

“I have been told by somebody who saw the videos that at the World Trade Center from approximately August 23 […] until approximately September 3 [that] strange vans, and there were just maybe three, […] janitorial vans, arrived at three in the morning,” the former Congressional staffer said. “Between the hours of 3 o’clock and 5 o’clock, these vans had never been in this building before. It was an anomaly […] they showed up for 10 or eleven days, approximately, then they were never seen again.”


More:

https://www.intellihub.com/fmr-wh-staffe...tc-on-911/


It just keeps getting weirder and weirder.

So who demolished the buildings?

Motive?

The world we live in today.


The 'method' was "a new Pearl Harbor".
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-16-2017 11:31 PM)
9/11 WTC GROUND ZERO = NUCLEAR EVENT Minimum Residual Radiation Underground Atomic Detonations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3pBM5TAboI

The concrete was pulverized....by "what"???
The towers fell as a fountain of pulverized concrete....

Yup, it was powder BEFORE it reached the ground. If the impact did this, why were the lower levels, pulverized as well? The only things left standing was the ornamental facade around the base... which were separate from the main structure. Which makes sense.
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kickit She's debunked
Susan Lindauer (born July 17, 1963) is an American antiwar activist and former U.S. Congressional staffer who was charged with "acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government" and violating U.S. financial sanctions during the run-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. She was incarcerated in 2005 and released the next year after two judges ruled her mentally unfit to stand trial.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Lindauer

Susan Lindauer debunked
https://www.metabunk.org/susan-lindauer.t2494/
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Maybe the nuke was their backup plan? Surely someone would have detected elevated radiation levels if one actually went off.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-16-2017 07:53 PM)
Planetary Lawd Yes! Gawd  Wrote: (07-16-2017 07:52 PM)
Building 7 had a raging fire on the lower floors and probably had its support columns severely weakened by the seismic shock from the collapse of the Twin Towers.



Building 7 had some fires but no raging fires. Explosives clearly took out the building.

7 had diesel fuel tanks for generators. That's why the fire was so bad.
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Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (07-16-2017 11:34 PM)
I would hardly call that a "confirmation". The woman was a jailed felon who was adjudged mentally incapable of defending herself. She claims that her "handler" (who, by the way, never said he was her "handler" or even that she had a "handler") told her something, and we're supposed to accept that as some sort of corroboration? Hardly!


I can't watch the vid now ("not available in my country") but if I recall from watching several years back, wasn't she held on a military base incommunicado? I'll have to watch the video again later.

Point being, fedgov does what fedgov wants. Given their documented criminal antics, do you really believe they would not put her thru a kangaroo court or discredit her in other ways? For example, we know from the Clinton's past that they used a medical examiner that labeled murders as suicides -- even when ridiculous damages were present on the body.



Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (07-16-2017 11:34 PM)
If she "confirmed" that Fuisz said all this, what does Fuisz himself say? Sounds like she pulled the whole thing out of her flower sphincter.

Good question. Has anyone put it to him?
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