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Pope Francis: ‘ Personal Relationships With Jesus Are Dangerous And Harmful’
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RE: Pope Francis: ‘ Personal Relationships With Jesus Are Dangerous And Harmful’
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PopEye  Wrote: (07-16-2017 10:46 PM)
OLD, recycled BOGUS news.

Video is from "Your News Wire", a proven FAKE NEWS site.

I think the Italian in the video is real. I can tell because I have basic knowledge of Italian. Jhikpghf
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Post: #32
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-16-2017 10:06 PM)
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I kind of agree because it's dangerous to be friends with Jesus without some form of Church protection.

Because Jesus all by himself is a harsh master. He's a harsh dude. Just really tough. You don't want to be be under his rulership all by yourself.

If you are under Church protection, your relationship with Jesus will be less painful.

Jhikpghf

You should take Jesus' own advice:

Matthew 23:8

But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers.


"Rabbi" means teacher in general terms. Teacher, preacher, priest, vicar, all the same thing.

That's why protestant churces are in opposition to the Spirit as well, they have someone on the pulpit in place of the Holy Spirit.

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PopEye  Wrote: (07-16-2017 10:46 PM)
OLD, recycled BOGUS news.

Video is from "Your News Wire", a proven FAKE NEWS site.

I think the Italian in the video is real. I can tell because I have basic knowledge of Italian. Jhikpghf

See, this is the original video from Catholic News Service. This is from a real news service.



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The Book of Romans doesn't belong in the bible. That's where the church gets all of its power and that's why Constantine kept it in the canon with the Council of Nicaea.

At street level, every proponent of the socialist "solution" either has no idea who installs it and runs it, or he astonishingly believes "the government" can be transformed into a beneficent enterprise and shed its core corruption, as it takes the reins of absolute power.
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jcab2000  Wrote: (07-16-2017 11:04 PM)
The Book of Romans doesn't belong in the bible. That's where the church gets all of its power and that's why Constantine kept it in the canon with the Council of Nicaea.

I disagree with that. The problem with the "church" is systematic theology. You must adhere to it's cannons, before you read the scripture. So it imposes an interpretation upon you before you read the words.

The Book of Romans is probably Paul's second best work, his first is Ephesians.
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jcab2000  Wrote: (07-16-2017 11:04 PM)
The Book of Romans doesn't belong in the bible. That's where the church gets all of its power and that's why Constantine kept it in the canon with the Council of Nicaea.

I disagree with that. The problem with the "church" is systematic theology. You must adhere to it's cannons, before you read the scripture. So it imposes an interpretation upon you before you read the words.

The Book of Romans is probably Paul's second best work, his first is Ephesians.
The gyst of Romans is to place your trust in the church because that's the only way to have a relationship with God.

It's also why the Gospel of Thomas was kept out of the canon. That was the book that said God was within everyone and you only should have a personal relationship with God, bypassing the church. So the people who had the church's best interests in mind decided that didn't belong. Holy spirit and all that, my ass.

At street level, every proponent of the socialist "solution" either has no idea who installs it and runs it, or he astonishingly believes "the government" can be transformed into a beneficent enterprise and shed its core corruption, as it takes the reins of absolute power.
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Post: #37
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I think you're fooling yourself if you think they are interceding for you.

Besides, it is a difficult walk and most people don't want to walk with the Spirit because it's arduous.

Very few people take the time to do much of anything any longer we are obsessed with convenience.

The walk is by no means convenient.

Anyone can intercede for you. Like if you have a sick baby and you pray for it, and the baby unexpectedly heals, then you might call that intercession. I don't think priests are different from anybody else in that regard. Even if a rabbi prayed for you, or an imam prayed for you, then that still could have helped.

If you were sick, you probably would like it if someone prayed for you, even if it was a priest.

Jhikpghf

the catholic church has really brainwashed you

even with what you see in this thread and many others about how evil the catholic church is - the catholic church makes up their own rules - not by what the bible says

open your eyes and see
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it's dangerous to the church, not to your soul. Everyone needs to seek a personal relationship w/ the Son.

John 14...not sure what verse. You can google.

"Jesus answered, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through ME."

So BOOM...screw you Pope!
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Sounds like a cult leader wanting to keep himself and rome betweem "Christians" and Jesus, Jesus is our mediator not rome, not the pope nor any fool who thinks he is

In essence, what the Pope is saying that a walk with Jesus is only fulfilled when one is a member of His church. That part is ok, but the problem arises when the Catholics say it must be their church.
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I disagree with that. The problem with the "church" is systematic theology. You must adhere to it's cannons, before you read the scripture. So it imposes an interpretation upon you before you read the words.

The Book of Romans is probably Paul's second best work, his first is Ephesians.
The gyst of Romans is to place your trust in the church because that's the only way to have a relationship with God.

It's also why the Gospel of Thomas was kept out of the canon. That was the book that said God was within everyone and you only should have a personal relationship with God, bypassing the church. So the people who had the church's best interests in mind decided that didn't belong. Holy spirit and all that, my ass.

The Mormans are cultic also as they say you must read Joseph Smith and that there are many heavens.... a complete lie.

Jehovah witness lies also and says Jesus was just an angel and that Satan bore the sin of man.

Seventh Day Adventists are not as bad, their main problem is thinking there is something more special about Saturday then the seventh year or the other laws of the Pentateuch.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-16-2017 09:37 PM)
IOW ... "you need me and the church as a middleman between you and God, and you need to give us your money."

FU, Pope Francis Communistus Dumbasstus the 16th.

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"Confess all of your dirty little secrets and then give generously to the collection plate to cover your penance"
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Sounds like a cult leader wanting to keep himself and rome betweem "Christians" and Jesus, Jesus is our mediator not rome, not the pope nor any fool who thinks he is

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Actually, your thread title is wrong as it mis characterizes what the Pope is saying...

You thread title reads - Pope Francis: ‘ Personal Relationships With Jesus Are Dangerous And Harmful’

The Pope did not say that. He said it is not possible to be fulfilled in the manner Christ intended, when person rejects the church or the body of Christ and does not want to be a member of a church....so the Catholic Church thinks it is the only one...but some Catholics also accept other churches....so even that is up to interpretation, even by the Catholics...

So your thread is complete hogwash, sorry to say.

Complete hogwash and non-sense, a mis-characterization of what is being said.

Why is it that only threads that are religious but mis characterize are not moved to the religious forum, such as this one, but threads that are religious and tell the truth are immediately moved by some so called friendly moderator?

That also is non-sense.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-16-2017 11:58 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-16-2017 09:37 PM)
IOW ... "you need me and the church as a middleman between you and God, and you need to give us your money."

FU, Pope Francis Communistus Dumbasstus the 16th.

chuckle
"Confess all of your dirty little secrets and then give generously to the collection plate to cover your penance"

Sounds more like a bully standing between you and Jesus saying you must give him money before you can talk to Jesus.

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Quote:God was within everyone and you only should have a personal relationship with God, bypassing the church

Gnostics will always quote that sort of stuff.

What if every ruler (scale) and yardstick decided how long an inch was?
Answer: "you will be as God, deciding good & evil for yourself". Funny it was the Adversary that thought it'd be a good idea for us.



What would happen is that the world would be full of Maggies and LotusFoots.

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