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Pope Francis: ‘ Personal Relationships With Jesus Are Dangerous And Harmful’
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RE: Pope Francis: ‘ Personal Relationships With Jesus Are Dangerous And Harmful’
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nolomolistari  Wrote: (07-17-2017 12:14 AM)
Quote:God was within everyone and you only should have a personal relationship with God, bypassing the church

Gnostics will always quote that sort of stuff.

What if every ruler (scale) and yardstick decided how long an inch was?
Answer: "you will be as God, deciding good & evil for yourself". Funny it was the Adversary that thought it'd be a good idea for us.



What would happen is that the world would be full of Maggies and LotusFoots.

S977

It would be as utopian as the original idea of the United States, a country born of free individuals. Instead now, we have everyone worshiping central authority in every possible area, science, religion, media, and government so everyone's lives are controlled in every possible way.

At street level, every proponent of the socialist "solution" either has no idea who installs it and runs it, or he astonishingly believes "the government" can be transformed into a beneficent enterprise and shed its core corruption, as it takes the reins of absolute power.
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Post: #47
RE: Pope Francis: ‘ Personal Relationships With Jesus Are Dangerous And Harmful’
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chuckle
"Confess all of your dirty little secrets and then give generously to the collection plate to cover your penance"

Sounds more like a bully standing between you and Jesus saying you must give him money before you can talk to Jesus.

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Sounds more like a black mailer telling you that you can only get to heaven by confessing secrets and then paying for the administrative costs.
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RE: Pope Francis: ‘ Personal Relationships With Jesus Are Dangerous And Harmful’
Of course he'd say that. Because he and those he serves can't enter into Heaven, neither does he want anyone else to. Like the Religious rulers in Jesus's day who shut up the knowledge of the Kingdom as well, and aimed to have him killed, because the Good News was taking away their rule and control over people.

The Good News that Jesus brought was that ANYONE can connect with the Father, and receive revelations, if only but they seek and ask the Father within, and desired to be truely righteous themselves. Revelations teach one the true ruler of this world, and what is in a man that causes us to "Know not what we do" In short it teaches us ALL things as Jesus stated. Peter is not the rock of the true church, but Revelation is.

In around year 200 the keys of knowledge were locked up again, and it was declared that revelation had ceased, and the cannon of scripture had ended. Then the era of persecution and bloodshed began where those that didn't fall in line were put to death. With sun darkening, and the moon turning to blood upon the rest of mankind.

On the plus side, it's nice to see them rattled now they know the Gospel of the Kingdom is being preached once again, for them to say such things in public. The second woe comes quickly for these lot.
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RE: Pope Francis: ‘ Personal Relationships With Jesus Are Dangerous And Harmful’
Great post OP.

He's a dottering old fool. Soon to be irrelevant.


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Another argument against ''Jesus only and no Church'' is that Jesus instructs his believers to eat his body and drink his blood as a prerequisite for salvation. He really says that in the Bible and he is completely serious about it.

But you can't do that alone, there needs to be some kind of gathering inside a church.

SOURCE: http://biblehub.com/john/6-54.htm
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LOP Secret Agent  Wrote: (07-17-2017 12:39 AM)
Another argument against ''Jesus only and no Church'' is that Jesus instructs his believers to eat his body and drink his blood as a prerequisite for salvation. He really says that in the Bible and he is completely serious about it.

But you can't do that alone, there needs to be some kind of gathering inside a church.

SOURCE: http://biblehub.com/john/6-54.htm

Did he really say that or is it just the bible telling us so?
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LOP Secret Agent  Wrote: (07-17-2017 12:39 AM)
Another argument against ''Jesus only and no Church'' is that Jesus instructs his believers to eat his body and drink his blood as a prerequisite for salvation. He really says that in the Bible and he is completely serious about it.

But you can't do that alone, there needs to be some kind of gathering inside a church.

SOURCE: http://biblehub.com/john/6-54.htm

Again, you are misinterpreting it per their pre-programming. What is meant by the verse is when you gather with other believers you should share the water and the bread confessing that Christ is your very life and breath.

Same thing with living a genuine Christian life. As I said that is hard, no one wants to do it. So instead we invented Christianity light with churches, which do things like you want, pray for you, do good works for you, and be holy and reverent for you so that you don't have to partake in any difficult day to day work.

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They need a large church of followers to help them out if illegal aliens decide to invade the Vatican making Aliens vs Predators a real time event.
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RE: Pope Francis: ‘ Personal Relationships With Jesus Are Dangerous And Harmful’
LOP Secret Agent  Wrote: (07-17-2017 12:39 AM)
Another argument against ''Jesus only and no Church'' is that Jesus instructs his believers to eat his body and drink his blood as a prerequisite for salvation. He really says that in the Bible and he is completely serious about it.

But you can't do that alone, there needs to be some kind of gathering inside a church.

SOURCE: http://biblehub.com/john/6-54.htm

It has been said that it's a metaphor for eating a psychedelic schrooms and the tea that is made with them. Sounds legit. The mushroom was called "the flesh of the Gods" by Central American shamans way back before they had exposure to the biblical scripture.

So there.
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RE: Pope Francis: ‘ Personal Relationships With Jesus Are Dangerous And Harmful’
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LOP Secret Agent  Wrote: (07-17-2017 12:39 AM)
Another argument against ''Jesus only and no Church'' is that Jesus instructs his believers to eat his body and drink his blood as a prerequisite for salvation. He really says that in the Bible and he is completely serious about it.

But you can't do that alone, there needs to be some kind of gathering inside a church.

SOURCE: http://biblehub.com/john/6-54.htm

Again, you are misinterpreting it per their pre-programming. What is meant by the verse is when you gather with other believers you should share the water and the bread confessing that Christ is your very life and breath.

Same thing with living a genuine Christian life. As I said that is hard, no one wants to do it. So instead we invented Christianity light with churches, which do things like you want, pray for you, do good works for you, and be holy and reverent for you so that you don't have to partake in any difficult day to day work.

Lmao

And this is also why the "church" is weak and anemic barely recognizable or distinguishable from the rest of the world.

The pope embodies this, they've even discussed the efficacy of the sacrifice through genuine belief, in others words if they believe on your behalf (sizable donation) you'll receive salvation.

It's all corruption.
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RE: Pope Francis: ‘ Personal Relationships With Jesus Are Dangerous And Harmful’
The correct translation is "assembly", IOW don't do shrooms alone, commiserate ? with ones fellows on the state of the world while connected to a higher state of mind.
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RE: Pope Francis: ‘ Personal Relationships With Jesus Are Dangerous And Harmful’
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-17-2017 12:44 AM)
LOP Secret Agent  Wrote: (07-17-2017 12:39 AM)
Another argument against ''Jesus only and no Church'' is that Jesus instructs his believers to eat his body and drink his blood as a prerequisite for salvation. He really says that in the Bible and he is completely serious about it.

But you can't do that alone, there needs to be some kind of gathering inside a church.

SOURCE: http://biblehub.com/john/6-54.htm

Again, you are misinterpreting it per their pre-programming. What is meant by the verse is when you gather with other believers you should share the water and the bread confessing that Christ is your very life and breath.


He did really did eat bread and drink wine with the original 12 apostles , and he meant that to continue. Because he really used the word 'body'' and really used the word ''blood''. It has to be taken literally because he literally did get killed with his body and blood on the cross. Or else you would be denying the passion and suffering of Christ.
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Sounds more like a bully standing between you and Jesus saying you must give him money before you can talk to Jesus.

chuckle
chuckle
Sounds more like a black mailer telling you that you can only get to heaven by confessing secrets and then paying for the administrative costs.

Sounds more like an alphabet French owned private corporation with no legal constitutional charter to be operating in the US, like the FBI, hiring paid informants and black mailing them, telling them they can only get liberty if they confess secrets, do the dirty work and then this way pay the administrative costs due to US Inc.

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LOP Secret Agent  Wrote: (07-17-2017 12:39 AM)
Another argument against ''Jesus only and no Church'' is that Jesus instructs his believers to eat his body and drink his blood as a prerequisite for salvation. He really says that in the Bible and he is completely serious about it.

But you can't do that alone, there needs to be some kind of gathering inside a church.

SOURCE: http://biblehub.com/john/6-54.htm

He came in the flesh to teach about the Father's Kingdom and Righteousness.

Eating his flesh is about applying what he taught to yourself. Drinking his blood is about receiving revelation, which the Father gives a person. His words of truth.

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


At the time when Jesus said this, he lost 1000's of followers because they thought he was on about him bringing back the ancient Jewish rite of cannibalism.

How little things change.

He came speaking in parables. He said.

His words are of spirit only, and of truth, he said.

The flesh profits nothing, he said.

Keep in mind that Salvation is a "gift" from the Father, and not a reward.
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RE: Pope Francis: ‘ Personal Relationships With Jesus Are Dangerous And Harmful’
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-17-2017 12:44 AM)
LOP Secret Agent  Wrote: (07-17-2017 12:39 AM)
Another argument against ''Jesus only and no Church'' is that Jesus instructs his believers to eat his body and drink his blood as a prerequisite for salvation. He really says that in the Bible and he is completely serious about it.

But you can't do that alone, there needs to be some kind of gathering inside a church.

SOURCE: http://biblehub.com/john/6-54.htm

Again, you are misinterpreting it per their pre-programming. What is meant by the verse is when you gather with other believers you should share the water and the bread confessing that Christ is your very life and breath.

Same thing with living a genuine Christian life. As I said that is hard, no one wants to do it. So instead we invented Christianity light with churches, which do things like you want, pray for you, do good works for you, and be holy and reverent for you so that you don't have to partake in any difficult day to day work.

Lmao

Church for hire is like guns for hire. You pay the church and only then you are important to them...you pay the guns for hire and then they get their freedom....The good churches however, do not swindle you out of your money but rather, allow you to give if you feel you need to give, not force you to do so.
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