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Pope Francis: ‘ Personal Relationships With Jesus Are Dangerous And Harmful’
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RE: Pope Francis: ‘ Personal Relationships With Jesus Are Dangerous And Harmful’
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Again, you are misinterpreting it per their pre-programming. What is meant by the verse is when you gather with other believers you should share the water and the bread confessing that Christ is your very life and breath.

Same thing with living a genuine Christian life. As I said that is hard, no one wants to do it. So instead we invented Christianity light with churches, which do things like you want, pray for you, do good works for you, and be holy and reverent for you so that you don't have to partake in any difficult day to day work.

Lmao

And this is also why the "church" is weak and anemic barely recognizable or distinguishable from the rest of the world.

The pope embodies this, they've even discussed the efficacy of the sacrifice through genuine belief, in others words if they believe on your behalf (sizable donation) you'll receive salvation.

It's all corruption.

It's not that they believe on your behalf, it's just that we can't pray 6 times a day like the Muslims. Either you are member of a Church that prays a bit for you, or you pray six times a day and do everything on your own. But that usually doesn't work. No man is an island, and no one can save himself on his own.
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RE: Pope Francis: ‘ Personal Relationships With Jesus Are Dangerous And Harmful’
Another problem with Protestants is that they don't honor Jesus' mom. They kind of don't like Mary.

If you are a believer, how do you think Jesus feels about that?

It's more than likely that he dislikes it.

Jhikpghf
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Sounds like a cult leader wanting to keep himself and rome betweem "Christians" and Jesus, Jesus is our mediator not rome, not the pope nor any fool who thinks he is
No. Whether you like him or not, he's right, in that he sounds like he's saying the extremes of those using the catch phrase:

"Personal Relationship With Jesus"

as being a dangerous and harmful, and likely being dangerous and harmful to all Christianity, Judeo-Christianity or otherwise, and all religious sects with possible exceptions to cults.
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Post: #64
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-17-2017 12:46 AM)
And this is also why the "church" is weak and anemic barely recognizable or distinguishable from the rest of the world.

The pope embodies this, they've even discussed the efficacy of the sacrifice through genuine belief, in others words if they believe on your behalf (sizable donation) you'll receive salvation.

It's all corruption.

It's not that they believe on your behalf, it's just that we can't pray 6 times a day like the Muslims. Either you are member of a Church that prays a bit for you, or you pray six times a day and do everything on your own. But that usually doesn't work. No man is an island, and no one can save himself on his own.

You're wrapped up in works. Are you tired quite frequently?

We're saved by grace not our efforts.
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Another argument against ''Jesus only and no Church'' is that Jesus instructs his believers to eat his body and drink his blood as a prerequisite for salvation. He really says that in the Bible and he is completely serious about it.

But you can't do that alone, there needs to be some kind of gathering inside a church.

SOURCE: http://biblehub.com/john/6-54.htm

He came in the flesh to teach about the Father's Kingdom and Righteousness.

Eating his flesh is about applying what he taught to yourself. Drinking his blood is about receiving revelation, which the Father gives a person. His words of truth.

No, I think eating his flesh is really about receiving him like candy. You receive him and he receives you. He physically visits you and you physically visit him. It's about honoring the fact that he was really in the flesh and blood during his lifetime. It's really about honoring the physical flesh and blood of Jesus.
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It's not that they believe on your behalf, it's just that we can't pray 6 times a day like the Muslims. Either you are member of a Church that prays a bit for you, or you pray six times a day and do everything on your own. But that usually doesn't work. No man is an island, and no one can save himself on his own.

You're wrapped up in works. Are you tired quite frequently?

We're saved by grace not our efforts.

I agree with ''grace and not works''. It's actually official Church teaching.

SOURCE: http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontif...on_en.html
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Considering the contributions by some of LOP's jesus-tards, he might be on to something...


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Quote:"Personal Relationship With Jesus"

This the pope doesn't see as a problem.
Unless it's out of context.

The way you display/practice/live that personal relationship is in relationships with others. Jesus spoke on relationships with enemies, governments, authorities, friends.
One relationship He spoke of had special meaning to Him, that of the community of Believers -- His Body, His Church.

So to speak of having a truncated relationship, without the context of the Church, being dangerous and harmful, is correct.

The Pope has spoken of the essence of Christianity as being the living of a life in a personal relationship with Jesus.

If your idea of Christian love is to garner a harem, and your heart and 'inner christ' tells you to go for it...a Church is a standard by which you can examine the validity of your 'feelings'.
Our necessary weakness compels us to need the balance of others.

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but but

the butt sex
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LOP Secret Agent  Wrote: (07-16-2017 11:03 PM)
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I think the Italian in the video is real. I can tell because I have basic knowledge of Italian. Jhikpghf

See, this is the original video from Catholic News Service. This is from a real news service.




This is not the same video. I know a person who speaks Italian as original language and is an excellent translator into English and the two are not the same and the one posted by Black cat is correctly translated.
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He's just regurgitating age old official Roman Catholic doctrine.
To be expected from head of the Great Whore of the Revelation.
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How could any honest and upright Catholic respect this dude?

Damn, ain't he the Chief Ambassador of the Catholic Church?

It seems the Catholic Church Body as a whole would demand this idiot step down due to the ungodly messages he keeps sending to the world.

Very little that he promotes and endorses is scriptural to any religion, other than the NWO and the United Nations.

He's Lucifer in a toga robe no doubt.
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LOP Secret Agent  Wrote: (07-17-2017 12:56 AM)
Another problem with Protestants is that they don't honor Jesus' mom. They kind of don't like Mary.

If you are a believer, how do you think Jesus feels about that?

It's more than likely that he dislikes it.

Jhikpghf





I doubt Jesus is as Carnal Minded as you describe him.

Besides, women back then weren't thought of too highly like they are today.
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Well if it wasn't clear to you before who this pope serves it should be clear now.

It's not the Holy Father or Jesus Christ.
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Your Time will come...


That is all...
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