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Republican Climate change denial disinformation is bought and paid for by BigOil
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RE: Republican Climate change denial disinformation is bought and paid for by BigOil
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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (07-25-2017 05:05 PM)
jcab2000  Wrote: (07-25-2017 02:53 PM)
Yeah and it's so obvious that Dems love the planet. Look at how they stand up to Monsanto and big oil. Obama slaps BP's wrist while helping them hide the millions of gallons of oil on the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico.

you are full of sh*t..
give us a link that isn't a far-right POS blog
something with accurate information backing up that claim.

bet you can't
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/new...t-20100608

The Spill, The Scandal and the President

The inside story of how Obama failed to crack down on the corruption of the Bush years – and let the world's most dangerous oil company get away with murder

And in case you were wondering:

http://www.politico.com/story/2010/05/ob...ash-036783

Obama biggest recipient of BP cash

At street level, every proponent of the socialist "solution" either has no idea who installs it and runs it, or he astonishingly believes "the government" can be transformed into a beneficent enterprise and shed its core corruption, as it takes the reins of absolute power.
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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/new...g-20100721

Chemical dispersants work in a similar way to dishwashing detergent, causing the oil to break up into smaller droplets and moving it from the ocean surface down into the waters below. In theory, those droplets make it easier for bacteria and other natural processes to digest the oil. Many dispersants are made from petroleum byproducts: The dispersant that was stockpiled around the Gulf, which is sold under the trade name Corexit, was developed by Exxon in the 1970s. Dispersants, which can be sprayed from ships or planes, are quick and easy to apply – they are often used to break up small spills near land, where they can help keep oil from hitting fragile shorelines. But dispersants are full of chemical compounds, some of them toxic to humans and animals. One variety used heavily in the early days of the spill, Corexit 9527, contains an agent called 2-butoxyethanol, known to cause internal bleeding and kidney damage. For this reason, dispersants should never have been the primary tool to respond to an oil spill like the BP disaster.

But with the Deepwater Horizon, they were. The day after the rig sank, BP sprayed 1,900 gallons of Corexit on the site. Within a week, it was dropping tens of thousands of gallons out of airplanes. Because the use of dispersants had been preapproved in BP's response plan, there was little oversight provided by federal health or safety agencies. As long as the chemicals were applied according to certain conditions – sprayed at least three miles off shore and in water at least 30 feet deep – there were no limits to how much could be used.




But instead of dialing back on dispersants and deploying more skimmers, BP decided to wage chemical warfare in the Gulf. Within three weeks of the blowout, the company had dumped 300,000 gallons of Corexit into the ocean. By mid-July, the total had surpassed 1.8 million gallons.

At street level, every proponent of the socialist "solution" either has no idea who installs it and runs it, or he astonishingly believes "the government" can be transformed into a beneficent enterprise and shed its core corruption, as it takes the reins of absolute power.
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Post: #48
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-25-2017 05:11 PM)
"IF" The LIBERALS were not MAKING SO MUCH MONEY off
Green energy scams and subsidies scams it might help US BELIEVE!

If the CRIMINAL Liberals would stop USING CLIMATE Change Science as a means to fleece the Sheeple, then it might be easier to believe!

But the LIBERAL Democrats have been F#CKING every body out of MONEY over this! THATS what people SEE and BELIEVE!
The LIBERAL Democrats have Literally The Climate Change Science
to ROB this Nation BLIND since the 1970's!

They have SCAMMED America for so long and for so much MONEY!
We NO LONGER BELIEVE them!

Because they have all used it to GET RICH!
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The funny thing is Anonymous Coward, I'm the real liberal. I don't believe in government or politicians. I actually care about the planet. You're just a democrat cheerleader.

At street level, every proponent of the socialist "solution" either has no idea who installs it and runs it, or he astonishingly believes "the government" can be transformed into a beneficent enterprise and shed its core corruption, as it takes the reins of absolute power.
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Post: #50
RE: Republican Climate change denial disinformation is bought and paid for by BigOil
Then BLAME the Politicians you voted for,
"IF" the EARTH COOKS! They are to BLAME
for PEOPLE Not Believing!

They used the SCIENCE to Get RICH, Now NO one
believes the Science Anymore!
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Post: #51
RE: Republican Climate change denial disinformation is bought and paid for by BigOil
jcab2000  Wrote: (07-25-2017 05:16 PM)
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (07-25-2017 05:05 PM)
you are full of sh*t..
give us a link that isn't a far-right POS blog
something with accurate information backing up that claim.

bet you can't
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/new...t-20100608

The Spill, The Scandal and the President

The inside story of how Obama failed to crack down on the corruption of the Bush years – and let the world's most dangerous oil company get away with murder

And in case you were wondering:

http://www.politico.com/story/2010/05/ob...ash-036783

Obama biggest recipient of BP cash

ok well..that is pretty damning, I didn't follow that business very much but I have often said Obama became quite the lefty neoliberal the longer he was under the thumb of the Republican heavy congress.. his attempts to be bi-partisan and clean up the out-of-control lobbying were rather pathetic.

Still he was 1000x the president than Trump is.

Your second link is more about BP donating to the Democrats and to one Sen. Mary Landrieu

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The perversity of the climate science kangaroo court

EPA administrator Scott Pruitt is reportedly giving serious consideration to investing the taxpayers’ money in a “red team-blue team” effort to determine whether current scientific understandings about climate change are actually right. The idea is that a “red team” made up of officials from government agencies with responsibilities related to climate would try to poke holes in mainstream climate science, while a similarly constituted “blue team” would have the task of defending the mainstream consensus against this critique. Supposedly, this process would shed new light on what is known and what is not about human influence on the global climate. But the argument that such a process would be helpful is some combination of naive and disingenuous.

All of science works through the continuous application of the skeptical scrutiny of key findings by essentially everybody working in a given field. This happens in part through the peer-review process that findings must survive before being published in a scientific journal. It happens far more widely through the scrutiny of the wider community of experts in any given field once the findings have been published. That scrutiny is intense, not least because scientists make their reputations in substantial part by providing corrections and refinements to the published findings of others. This is the essence of the cumulative and self-correcting nature of the scientific enterprise as a whole.

Precisely because climate science has policy implications that appear to challenge the status quo in global energy supply, moreover, the degree of professional skeptical scrutiny to which key climate-science findings have been subjected has far exceeded even the already pervasive and rigorous norm. Climate science has been repeatedly “red-teamed,” both by groups of avowed contrarians sponsored by right-wing groups and by the most qualified parts of the world’s scientific community. The right wing’s “red team” efforts have consistently been characterized by brazen cherry-picking, misrepresentation of the findings of others, recycling of long-discredited hypotheses, and invention of new ones destined to be discredited. Almost none of this material has survived peer review to be published in the respectable professional literature.

Of course, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change itself, which works under the auspices of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, can be regarded as a “red team-blue team” operation, in which every conclusion must pass muster with a huge team of expert authors and reviewers from a wide variety of disciplines and nations (including from Saudi Arabia and other major oil producers inclined to be skeptical). The IPCC has produced five massive assessments of climate science (in 1990, 1995, 2001, 2007, and 2013-14), each more emphatic than the last in its conclusions that human-produced greenhouses gases are changing global climate with ongoing and growing impacts on human well-being.

more:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/...story.html

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House science chairman thinks climate change is 'beneficial'
Good news: we can all just keep spewing CO2 into the atmosphere.
Quote:Rising sea levels are also something we hear a lot about in the alarmist science community. As the planet gets warmer, ice in the northern hemisphere will melt, contributing to sea level rises that will cause catastrophic floods in coastal cities. But these are "beneficial changes", Smith says, which could result in "commercial shipping lanes that provide faster, more convenient, and less costly routes between ports in Asia, Europe, and eastern North America."

Of course, it's no coincidence that Smith's biggest campaign contributor has been the oil and gas industry, pouring over $705,000 into furthering his career, which just to reiterate, now sees him running the Committee on Science, Space and Technology. Republicans have long-denied climate change was happening, but now that's become completely untenable they have to comment on it in some way -- in this case, by putting a happy spin on what may well herald the end of humanity
https://www.engadget.com/2017/07/25/Lama...epublican/


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Trump expected to nominate top coal lobbyist as EPA deputy administrator

Wheeler, currently a principal at the firm Faegre Baker Daniels Consulting, is a lobbyist for the coal giant Murray Energy. Robert Murray is the CEO of Murray Energy and “is close” with Trump, Axios reported. Murray also recently filed a defamation lawsuit against John Oliver, for a segment on his show that was highly critical of the coal company and its practices.

Once nominated, Wheeler would assume the number two position in the agency, which is led by Scott Pruitt, pending a confirmation from the Senate. Wheeler also served as a top aide to Sen. James Inhofe R-Okla., who is a notorious denier of climate change, Axios reported.

Pruitt also plans to pick three conservatives that would lead “key divisions within the agency,” according to the Washington Post. “Trump will nominate Bill Wehrum as associate administrator for the Office of Air and Radiation, Matt Leopold to serve as EPA general counsel and David Ross as assistant administrator for Office of Water,” the Post reported.

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http://www.salon.com/2017/07/23/trump-ex...nistrator/

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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (07-25-2017 05:59 PM)
The perversity of the climate science kangaroo court

EPA administrator Scott Pruitt is reportedly giving serious consideration to investing the taxpayers’ money in a “red team-blue team” effort to determine whether current scientific understandings about climate change are actually right. The idea is that a “red team” made up of officials from government agencies with responsibilities related to climate would try to poke holes in mainstream climate science, while a similarly constituted “blue team” would have the task of defending the mainstream consensus against this critique. Supposedly, this process would shed new light on what is known and what is not about human influence on the global climate. But the argument that such a process would be helpful is some combination of naive and disingenuous.

All of science works through the continuous application of the skeptical scrutiny of key findings by essentially everybody working in a given field. This happens in part through the peer-review process that findings must survive before being published in a scientific journal. It happens far more widely through the scrutiny of the wider community of experts in any given field once the findings have been published. That scrutiny is intense, not least because scientists make their reputations in substantial part by providing corrections and refinements to the published findings of others. This is the essence of the cumulative and self-correcting nature of the scientific enterprise as a whole.

Precisely because climate science has policy implications that appear to challenge the status quo in global energy supply, moreover, the degree of professional skeptical scrutiny to which key climate-science findings have been subjected has far exceeded even the already pervasive and rigorous norm. Climate science has been repeatedly “red-teamed,” both by groups of avowed contrarians sponsored by right-wing groups and by the most qualified parts of the world’s scientific community. The right wing’s “red team” efforts have consistently been characterized by brazen cherry-picking, misrepresentation of the findings of others, recycling of long-discredited hypotheses, and invention of new ones destined to be discredited. Almost none of this material has survived peer review to be published in the respectable professional literature.

Of course, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change itself, which works under the auspices of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, can be regarded as a “red team-blue team” operation, in which every conclusion must pass muster with a huge team of expert authors and reviewers from a wide variety of disciplines and nations (including from Saudi Arabia and other major oil producers inclined to be skeptical). The IPCC has produced five massive assessments of climate science (in 1990, 1995, 2001, 2007, and 2013-14), each more emphatic than the last in its conclusions that human-produced greenhouses gases are changing global climate with ongoing and growing impacts on human well-being.

more:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/...story.html




EPA is asking a climate denier think tank for help recruiting its "red team"


The Heartland Institute offers a model of what the EPA red team might look like. Their contrarian Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change — often referred to as a red team — publishes regular volumes of a report called “Climate Change Reconsidered

Heartland communications director Jim Lakely told the Washington Examiner the red team exercises to critique climate science are necessary “to critically examine what has become alarmist dogma rather than a sober evaluation of climate science for many years.” But, as many scientists and experts have noted, the peer review process for scientific publications already requires and facilitates rigorous examination.

For years, the Heartland Institute has spread misinformation about climate change and attacked the credibility of climate scientists. In 2012, the group launched a billboard campaign with the photographs of Ted Kaczynski (the Unabomber), Charles Manson, and Osama bin Laden, saying those men “still believe in global warming.” Heartland’s website at the time declared “the most prominent advocates of global warming aren’t scientists. They are murderers, tyrants, and madmen.”

More recently, the group announced plans to send a report titled “Why Scientists Disagree About Global Warming” to every K-12 teacher and college professor in America. The report incorrectly denies humans’ contributions to rising global temperatures.

Pruitt has adopted much of the misinformation that Heartland promotes. Since being confirmed, Pruitt has continued to question the science behind climate change and repeated climate denier talking points claiming that humans are not the main contributors to a warming planet.
Despite spouting climate denier talking points, EPA Chief is surprised he’s called a climate denier

And Heartland experts have already had an active role in Trump’s administration. Dan Simmons, currently an assistant to Energy Secretary Rick Perry, is still listed as an author on Heartland’s website. Myron Ebell, a noted climate denier, led Trump’s EPA transition team and has written several pieces opposing climate policy for Heartland.

Heartland has received funding from several fossil fuel companies, though it no longer publicly discloses its funders. In 2012, leaked documents from the group showed the group received contributions from the Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, among others. It has also received funding from ExxonMobil to support work to refute the human causes of climate change.

Last month, Heartland announced former Kansas congressman Tim Huelskamp will become president of the organization. During his political career, Huelskamp’s top donor was Koch Industries, and he received more than $250,000 in campaign contributions from the oil and gas industry. Koch Industries and the Koch family foundations have been one of the biggest funders of organizations that deny humans’ role in causing climate change and oppose policies to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

more:
https://thinkprogress.org/heartland-is-t...46cb6a17ca

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Post: #55
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NO you obviously don't GET IT!
WE all Know OIL is EVIL!

15 Years at WAR in OIL NATIONS!
Trust me we get it!

Americans have been watching our
sons and daughters DIE For OIL!
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Post: #56
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But you cant USE Evil OIL to Rationalize the Theft of MONEY
in Green Energy SCAMS!

2 wrongs don't make a right!
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Post: #57
RE: Republican Climate change denial disinformation is bought and paid for by BigOil
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-25-2017 07:11 PM)
NO you obviously don't GET IT!
WE all Know OIL is EVIL!

15 Years at WAR in OIL NATIONS!
Trust me we get it!

Americans have been watching our
sons and daughters DIE For OIL!

Lmao

You tell 'em, Judeo-Christian warrior!
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WHAT IS A "Judeo-Christian"

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Post: #59
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-24-2017 10:43 AM)
B.S., a group of REAL scientists is suing and demanding prosecution for crimes against humanity for this now proven set of lies.

It IS getting colder, unquestionably, so keep it up and maybe you can be charged as well.

they are not scientists,

they are lapdogs of the people who pay their salaries,

you want real science go outside and look at the chemtrails in the skies,

read the news...larsen ice shelf broke off last week,

and last but not least get some common sense,
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Eustace Muffins  Wrote: (07-24-2017 04:55 PM)
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (07-24-2017 08:31 AM)
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Led by the oil and gas industry, this sector regularly pumps the vast majority of its campaign contributions into Republican coffers. Even as other traditionally GOP-inclined industries have shifted somewhat to the left, this sector has remained rock-solid red.

Since the 1990 election cycle, more than two-thirds of this sector's contributions to candidates and party committees has gone to Republicans. Besides oil and gas, the electric utilities industry is another big donor in this sector. Less generous, but even more partisan, is the mining industry.

link to image: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFan_HwWAAEfy_B.jpg

link to image: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFaoBYtXkAA5aOh.jpg

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/i...hp?ind=E01

Dude , get over it. We will use every f*cking drop of oil till its all gone. Just remember every car tire take 7 gallons of oil to make. Plastic and rubber comes from oil.

Then you have planes and Jets;That industry pollutes the skies every f*cking day. But this aero pollution is not as much of a pollutant when compared to a f*cking volcano erupting .


Yes,,Species might die, Humans might die for whatever reason but this planet is not changing because of what man is doing. Mars climate is changing and theres no humans there.


What say you ya f*cking retard?

you won´t be able to use all the oil,

in a couple of years when the arctic goes ice free,

they will nuke yellowstone to try and stop the methane from escaping,

you will be dust in the wind,
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