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England officials fear North Korea secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapon
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09-13-2017 03:17 AM

 



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England officials fear North Korea secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapon
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RE: England officials fear North Korea secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapon
North Korea 'secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapons', British officials fear, Foreign Affairs Secretary Boris Johnson, orders investigation
North Korea’s sudden advancement in developing nuclear weapons may be due to secret support from Iran, British officials fear.

The Foreign Office is investigating whether “current and former nuclear states” helped Kim Jong-Un in his drive to mount nuclear warheads on missiles.

Senior Whitehall sources told The Sunday Telegraph it is not credible that North Korean scientists alone brought about the technological advances.

Iran is top of the list of countries suspected of giving some form of assistance, while Russia is also in the spotlight.
The fear is that outside influences have provided North Korea with equipment or expertise that has moved them closer to becoming a nuclear nation.

“North Korean scientists are people of some ability, but clearly they’re not doing it entirely in a vacuum,” said one Government minister.

Another Foreign Office source said: “For them to have done this entirely on their own stretches the bounds of credulity.”

Boris Johnson, the Foreign Secretary, hinted at his department’s concerns last week as he took questions from MPs about the crisis.

“There is currently an investigation into exactly how the country has managed to make this leap in technological ability,” Mr Johnson said.

“We are looking at the possible role that may have been played, inadvertently or otherwise, by some current and former nuclear states.” He declined to name who he had in mind.

America will tomorrow seek approval from the United Nations Security Council for a ban on exporting oil to North Korea, according to a leaked draft resolution.

British officials have been taken aback by the speed of advancement in North Korea’s nuclear programme.

Last month the regime sent a missile over Japan, while this week an explosion at a testing site measured 6.3 on the Richter scale—10 times more powerful than the tremor from the last such test.

At the start of the year it was estimated that North Korea would need a decade before they could launch intercontinental ballistic missile with nuclear warheads, Government sources said. That has now been slashed to just a few years.

Britain’s most senior Cabinet ministers were briefed on the “fast forward” in the country’s nuclear capabilities at a National Security Council meeting last week, attended by senior intelligence figures.

Theresa May also talked to Donald Trump, the American President, about North Korea just days after he said “all options” remained on the table.

They argue that the "window of opportunity" for action is narrowing and may be closed if left until the end of Mr Trump's presidency.

However the US-UK focus remains on finding a diplomatic solution, with agreement among the UN Security Council being the key target.

Suspicions remain about how North Korea is managing to make such rapid advances in its nuclear programe.
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RE: England officials fear North Korea secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapon
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Suspicions remain about how North Korea is managing to make such rapid advances in its nuclear programe.

Thete are DIY nuke plans on the internet.
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09-13-2017 05:01 AM

 



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RE: England officials fear North Korea secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapon
Remember that quote "My enemies enemy is my friend"

I'm sure China and Russia would love nothing more than to see North Korea send a few at America and are more than happy to help out since they can do it anonymously
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RE: England officials fear North Korea secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapon
Cmon people grow a f*cking brain! If these so called dictator were real don't you think they would not be capable of sending a nuclear war head in a shipping container in a US harbor of their choice?

The main advantage is that the US would not be able to identify who send it and they certainly not going to nuke every single countries they have suspicion since they have so many enemies around the world.

It's a show to scare the peasants into submission and to pay billions in futile military BS.
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09-13-2017 07:53 AM

 



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RE: England officials fear North Korea secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapon
if iran wanted they would just buy from russia or china.

FFS they just want them so they don't seem weak. if i understand correctly the ruling elite of iran has a tenuous grasp on their country and can't afford to be seen as weak.

Truth is, they aren't weak because they are buddy buddy with a lot of other rich and powerful people, unfortunately for them they can't exactly go around showing off that they have more in common with other billionaires than they do with their fellow countrymen.
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09-13-2017 07:58 AM

 



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RE: England officials fear North Korea secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapon
Bla bla bla, NK already tested nukes years ago, bla bla, Asia pivot, bla bla, Syria lost, need new revenue stream for weapons, bla bla, arms sales, bla bla, make up sh*t, bla bla.
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09-13-2017 08:50 AM

 



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RE: England officials fear North Korea secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapon
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-13-2017 05:01 AM)
Remember that quote "My enemies enemy is my friend"

I'm sure China and Russia would love nothing more than to see North Korea send a few at America and are more than happy to help out since they can do it anonymously

Well that places Britain in a strange position... being deeply entwined in both the US and China, matched with a strange 500 year ongoing love/hate fest with Russia...

London is about the move leaps and bounds ahead of New York in terms of global financial dominance, it is also seen as the financial hub for Chinas RMB ambitions, and the financial hub for OBOR..

London is the currency center of the world, thus saying China can not have access to US$ firmly puts the UK in the spot light...

But then you need to understand that the UK does play some interesting games, Napoleon sold Louisiana to the USA so it could fund the invasion of Britain and the London was the banker involved..

The EU hates the UK, talks of punishing the UK for voting.. yet the UK is still the EUs banker.. even outside the EU the UK will still be their first port of call should they need funding..

Argentina froths at the mouth in it's hatred for Britain but Kerchner still appointed a Britain bank to help sort out their debt issues..

Thusly, I counter your enemies enemy with, there are no perpetual enemies, or eternal friends, there are only interests, which are eternal and perpetual..
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09-13-2017 08:51 AM

 



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RE: England officials fear North Korea secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapon
Iran is a secret ally of israel. without Israel's help Iran could never develop it's nuke programme.
the Jewish messiah ie antichrist is supposed to come drom irani city of isfahan so Jews consider Iran to be holy and irani Shia ayatollahs are secretly of Jewish Faith.
so if Iran provided north Korea some assistance it's with Israeli consent
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09-13-2017 08:57 AM

 



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RE: England officials fear North Korea secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapon
Logros  Wrote: (09-13-2017 07:53 AM)
if iran wanted they would just buy from russia or china.

FFS they just want them so they don't seem weak. if i understand correctly the ruling elite of iran has a tenuous grasp on their country and can't afford to be seen as weak.

Truth is, they aren't weak because they are buddy buddy with a lot of other rich and powerful people, unfortunately for them they can't exactly go around showing off that they have more in common with other billionaires than they do with their fellow countrymen.

And you did not read it did you, no you didn't... Iran >>>> North Korea not the other way around..

does that not make you pause for thought for a moment... no it doesn't seem to.

Why when the US is going after China, does the UK switch track and point fingers at Iran instead.. could it be that London is looking to be the financial hub for OBOR? if the US tried to block Chinas use of the US$ which the UK happens to be largest currency trader, where would that place the UK..

For the UK to escape the EUs grasp it needs China and the US to soften the blows the EU wants to deal the UK in terms of trade, it also needs South Korea and Japan, thus the UK is the only nation with a real incentive to find a solution.. or at least point the focus somewhere else..
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RE: England officials fear North Korea secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapon
The other way around. China helped NK. NK helped Iran.
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RE: England officials fear North Korea secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapon
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-13-2017 08:58 AM)
The other way around. China helped NK. NK helped Iran.

Not according to UK Media:

Exclusive: North Korea 'secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapons', British officials fear
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/...r-weapons/

Lets just ignore that the UK is looking to be the key Financial Hub for OBOR...

‘One Belt, One Road’ – why the UK will gain
https://www.sc.com/BeyondBorders/one-bel...will-gain/
Extract:
Since its launch in 2013, OBOR – also known as ‘belt and road’ – has achieved steady progress and global influence, amassing project contracts worth USD926 billion in over 60 countries, with the UK serving as a key financial hub. Most banks in the West, including Standard Chartered, now use London as their renminbi centre.

which is why this is possible

London retains financial services crown: City extends lead over New York, Hong Kong and Singapore in international ranking
http://www.cityam.com/271735/london-reta...tends-lead

To make Brexit work the UK needs China, South Korea, Japan, USA on side or at the very least not rowing with each other.. otherwise the EU gains significant leverage over the UK.

All parties have their interests in play.. and they are not all aligned to the same narrative that people want them to be, ie east vs West or Nato vs Brics
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RE: England officials fear North Korea secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapon
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-13-2017 09:08 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-13-2017 08:58 AM)
The other way around. China helped NK. NK helped Iran.

Not according to UK Media:

Exclusive: North Korea 'secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapons', British officials fear
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/...r-weapons/

Lets just ignore that the UK is looking to be the key Financial Hub for OBOR...

‘One Belt, One Road’ – why the UK will gain
https://www.sc.com/BeyondBorders/one-bel...will-gain/
Extract:
Since its launch in 2013, OBOR – also known as ‘belt and road’ – has achieved steady progress and global influence, amassing project contracts worth USD926 billion in over 60 countries, with the UK serving as a key financial hub. Most banks in the West, including Standard Chartered, now use London as their renminbi centre.

which is why this is possible

London retains financial services crown: City extends lead over New York, Hong Kong and Singapore in international ranking
http://www.cityam.com/271735/london-reta...tends-lead

To make Brexit work the UK needs China, South Korea, Japan, USA on side or at the very least not rowing with each other.. otherwise the EU gains significant leverage over the UK.

All parties have their interests in play.. and they are not all aligned to the same narrative that people want them to be, ie east vs West or Nato vs Brics

Now we already know Iran has no such weapon... but China does.
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