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Limbaugh: Trump's comments on NFL 'starting to make me nervous'
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RE: Limbaugh: Trump's comments on NFL 'starting to make me nervous'
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Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (10-12-2017 06:44 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 06:32 PM)
Forced?

There isnt any force in this situation.

Reductio Ad Absurdum. The situation is reduced to the lowest absurd level.

At the end, I fail to see the difference between forced kneeling, or forced standing.

Currently, yes. Not forced. You can have opinions of it, that's it. Attempting to make a person sit or stand, or for example by punishment (collectively) or forcing a business/school to do it; leads to the result I gave with reductio ad absurdium.

The NFL doesn't have the power to "force" their players to do anything.
They can always quit.

Reduced the situation is only this.
Comply with employer mandate or find another job.
No force.
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Post: #47
RE: Limbaugh: Trump's comments on NFL 'starting to make me nervous'
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 06:48 PM)
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (10-12-2017 06:44 PM)
Reductio Ad Absurdum. The situation is reduced to the lowest absurd level.

At the end, I fail to see the difference between forced kneeling, or forced standing.

Currently, yes. Not forced. You can have opinions of it, that's it. Attempting to make a person sit or stand, or for example by punishment (collectively) or forcing a business/school to do it; leads to the result I gave with reductio ad absurdium.

The NFL doesn't have the power to "force" their players to do anything.
They can always quit.

Reduced the situation is only this.
Comply with employer mandate or find another job.
No force.

So if my boss demands a blow job, I have no recourse to say no for violation of my personal sovereignty? I have to quit?

My HR would laugh at that answer.

Since when do businesses overrule the first amendment? Hint they are bound by the constitution, title 18 241 and title 42 1985 and 1986. For starters.

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Post: #48
RE: Limbaugh: Trump's comments on NFL 'starting to make me nervous'
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (10-12-2017 06:52 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 06:48 PM)
The NFL doesn't have the power to "force" their players to do anything.
They can always quit.

Reduced the situation is only this.
Comply with employer mandate or find another job.
No force.

So if my boss demands a blow job, I have no recourse to say no for violation of my personal sovereignty? I have to quit?

My HR would laugh at that answer.

Since when do businesses overrule the first amendment? Hint they are bound by the constitution, title 18 241 and title 42 1985 and 1986. For starters.

Popcorn

Give me a break.
How about you say "no" to the blowjob demand.
Then, if you get fired you sue their pants off.

The kneelers debacle isnt sexual harrassment.

Its more like your boss at burgerking telling you to wash you hands before returning from the bathroom.

Its your behaviour at work while actively representing the company.
You're free to act stupid.
They're free to fire you.
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Post: #49
RE: Limbaugh: Trump's comments on NFL 'starting to make me nervous'
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 07:00 PM)
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (10-12-2017 06:52 PM)
So if my boss demands a blow job, I have no recourse to say no for violation of my personal sovereignty? I have to quit?

My HR would laugh at that answer.

Since when do businesses overrule the first amendment? Hint they are bound by the constitution, title 18 241 and title 42 1985 and 1986. For starters.

Popcorn

Give me a break.
How about you say "no" to the blowjob demand.
Then, if you get fired you sue their pants off.

The kneelers debacle isnt sexual harrassment.

Its more like your boss at burgerking telling you to wash you hands before returning from the bathroom.

Its your behaviour at work while actively representing the company.
You're free to act stupid.
They're free to fire you.

No sh*t Sherlock on the law suit, I just gave you the legal code if you bothered to look at it. Title 42 1984/85. They can also sue for wrongful termination and get their job back.

For your example: If you don't wash your hands, you're putting people at risk. Duuuuuh.

Simply not standing, puts no one at risk. So this is a non-sequitur and invalid to compare the two.

They aren't free to fire you for simply following guaranteed Constitutional Rights of not standing or participating in a public worship ritual.

Suck it up butter cup. Your argument is vacuous. It's akin to having my workplace threaten me if I refuse to participate in a mass prayer during official business hours.

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Post: #50
RE: Limbaugh: Trump's comments on NFL 'starting to make me nervous'
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (10-12-2017 06:52 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 06:48 PM)
The NFL doesn't have the power to "force" their players to do anything.
They can always quit.

Reduced the situation is only this.
Comply with employer mandate or find another job.
No force.

So if my boss demands a blow job, I have no recourse to say no for violation of my personal sovereignty? I have to quit?

My HR would laugh at that answer.

Since when do businesses overrule the first amendment? Hint they are bound by the constitution, title 18 241 and title 42 1985 and 1986. For starters.

Popcorn

Didn't stop Hollywood Weinstein and his victims. They are finaly coming out.
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Post: #51
RE: Limbaugh: Trump's comments on NFL 'starting to make me nervous'
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (10-12-2017 07:03 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 07:00 PM)
Give me a break.
How about you say "no" to the blowjob demand.
Then, if you get fired you sue their pants off.

The kneelers debacle isnt sexual harrassment.

Its more like your boss at burgerking telling you to wash you hands before returning from the bathroom.

Its your behaviour at work while actively representing the company.
You're free to act stupid.
They're free to fire you.

No sh*t Sherlock on the law suit, I just gave you the legal code if you bothered to look at it. Title 42 1984/85. They can also sue for wrongful termination and get their job back.

For your example: If you don't wash your hands, you're putting people at risk. Duuuuuh.

Simply not standing, puts no one at risk. So this is a non-sequitur and invalid to compare the two.

They aren't free to fire you for simply following guaranteed Constitutional Rights of not standing or participating in a public worship ritual.

Suck it up butter cup. Your argument is vacuous. It's akin to having my workplace threaten me if I refuse to participate in a mass prayer during official business hours.

Could a player goose step around the field?
Make the motion of masturbating?

Could the BK register operator make stupid faces at the customers?
Refuse to participate in on the clock team building?

You have the freedom to do what you want.
Your employer cannot force you to comply but they can terminate your employment.

There isnt any force involved.
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Post: #52
RE: Limbaugh: Trump's comments on NFL 'starting to make me nervous'
Freemason limbaugh aka ronald levy with is EIB logo that has 13 & 33 embedded in it. That zionist kissinger and rockefeller praiser? Who cares they all play for team roman pyramid.
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Post: #53
RE: Limbaugh: Trump's comments on NFL 'starting to make me nervous'
Fork 5G  Wrote: (10-12-2017 02:40 AM)
Rayne  Wrote: (10-12-2017 02:36 AM)
Tweet fest coming up!


Limbaugh: Trump's comments on NFL 'starting to make me nervous'
Source: The Hill

Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh on Wednesday voiced concerns about President Trump's comments on NFL players taking a knee during the national anthem to protest racial injustice, saying Trump should not have the power to dictate who can kneel during the anthem.

"There’s a part of this story that’s starting to make me nervous, and it’s this: I am very uncomfortable with the president of the United States being able to dictate the behavior and power of anybody. That’s not where this should be coming from," Limbaugh said on his show.

Limbaugh said he believed Trump's motives were "pure," but he argued that the president's actions were unhelpful in the broader debate on players kneeling.

"Trump is continually tweeting — I know what he’s doing, and I understand why he’s doing it, and his motives are pure; don’t misunderstand. But I don’t think that it is useful or helpful for any employee anywhere to be forced to do something because the government says they must," he continued.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-r...me-nervous

WOW, will this anger the orange baby man with tiny hands?

Let's hope so.

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Trump will probably ignore it because it is Limbaugh and Limbaugh 98% of the time backs Trump.

I find it weird that I agree with Limbaugh on this, not on his saying the President is sincere but on thinking it is nutty for a POTUS to dictate to business (NFL) how they should be dealing with their players and their constitutional rights.
Standing or not standing for the anthem is legally protected by the constitution and past SCOTUS rulings that recognize the rights of people to be free of governmental coercion to stand, salute, sing along, etc. etc.
Nobody has to do that in this country unless you have signed away your fundamental rights as a member of the armed services.

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RE: Limbaugh: Trump's comments on NFL 'starting to make me nervous'
cut the players salary by 20% and the owners can use that to pay taxes. it's time they start paying taxes.
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RE: Limbaugh: Trump's comments on NFL 'starting to make me nervous'
Thank God for the millenials who are killing everything.
Rush ur an ugly in spirit dino ....
ancient and over.
You are done ! Yay over! Enjoy ur last gasps of life.
Thanks so very much young smart people today.;)
P.s. Im a conservative. Not a nazi. Done with gop trump and bannon et all!
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Post: #56
RE: Limbaugh: Trump's comments on NFL 'starting to make me nervous'
Fork 5G  Wrote: (10-12-2017 02:40 AM)
Rayne  Wrote: (10-12-2017 02:36 AM)
Tweet fest coming up!




Limbaugh: Trump's comments on NFL 'starting to make me nervous'
Source: The Hill

Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh on Wednesday voiced concerns about President Trump's comments on NFL players taking a knee during the national anthem to protest racial injustice, saying Trump should not have the power to dictate who can kneel during the anthem.

"There’s a part of this story that’s starting to make me nervous, and it’s this: I am very uncomfortable with the president of the United States being able to dictate the behavior and power of anybody. That’s not where this should be coming from," Limbaugh said on his show.

Limbaugh said he believed Trump's motives were "pure," but he argued that the president's actions were unhelpful in the broader debate on players kneeling.

"Trump is continually tweeting — I know what he’s doing, and I understand why he’s doing it, and his motives are pure; don’t misunderstand. But I don’t think that it is useful or helpful for any employee anywhere to be forced to do something because the government says they must," he continued.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-r...me-nervous


WOW, will this anger the orange baby man with tiny hands?

Let's hope so.

Popcorn

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RE: Limbaugh: Trump's comments on NFL 'starting to make me nervous'
Wilbury Pumpkin  Wrote: (10-12-2017 05:43 AM)
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Nothing like FORCED, FAKE PATRIOTISM!


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House of M  Wrote: (10-12-2017 07:41 PM)
Nothing like FORCED, FAKE PATRIOTISM!


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What force?
Who is being forced?
Who is forcing them?
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Post: #60
RE: Limbaugh: Trump's comments on NFL 'starting to make me nervous'
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 07:18 PM)
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (10-12-2017 07:03 PM)
No sh*t Sherlock on the law suit, I just gave you the legal code if you bothered to look at it. Title 42 1984/85. They can also sue for wrongful termination and get their job back.

For your example: If you don't wash your hands, you're putting people at risk. Duuuuuh.

Simply not standing, puts no one at risk. So this is a non-sequitur and invalid to compare the two.

They aren't free to fire you for simply following guaranteed Constitutional Rights of not standing or participating in a public worship ritual.

Suck it up butter cup. Your argument is vacuous. It's akin to having my workplace threaten me if I refuse to participate in a mass prayer during official business hours.

Could a player goose step around the field?
Make the motion of masturbating?

Could the BK register operator make stupid faces at the customers?
Refuse to participate in on the clock team building?

You have the freedom to do what you want.
Your employer cannot force you to comply but they can terminate your employment.

There isnt any force involved.

All non sequitors to the subject of the 1st. None of them match logically.

I'll ask frankly.

Can an employer rightfully terminate me for refusal to participate in a public prayer to "God" during business hours?

Yes or no.

No. They cannot. Just as the NFL cannot if it was a public prayer instead. It's the same amendment, same reasons, and same rights. Freedom of speech and peaceful assembly that lasts all of one song as a show of protest.

Period.

Do you have anything to refute this. At all?

And as my own question, why are you advocating a position repugnant to the Constitution? Do you even care about rights or are you a wannabe authoritarian nationalist, aka the real description of facism? I'm leaning towards it now.

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