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America is Changing, Have You Noticed?
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That's not really a surprise. With the shift away from a real manufacturing economy to a service oriented economy, different industries will be affected differently.

Hopefully the tides will swing back to manufacturing and production, as a service industry can not sustain itself infinitely without imploding.

The best scenario is a moderate mix of both, similar to the American economy between 1950 and 1980s/90s.

Lets' not, and come up with different methods and something better taking those era's as mistakes.

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Do you see a problem? Or can you see it at all?

Is that the world and place you really want to live in?

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Post: #32
RE: America is Changing, Have You Noticed?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 04:54 PM)
What am I concerned about? GM and Ford have announced they are coming out with a combined 33 new electric models. How come? Who would buy it? Obama signed a series of emission control bills which will pretty much force the country to switch over to electric cars.

Muscle cars will soon be owned only by the rich. How come? I'll bet anything they levy a tax on all gas engine cars in a few years.

Plan accordingly.............

http://fortune.com/2017/10/02/gm-20-all-...cles-2023/

Didn't mean to leave the thread hanging. I had to leave earlier today.
I loved your response. Perhaps it's just to make a change so large that it will force people hanging onto their older model cars to have to enter the car market by hook or by crook. I don't think they really care about emissions.
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Post: #33
RE: America is Changing, Have You Noticed?
Rayne  Wrote: (10-12-2017 05:25 PM)
I think the campaign of animosity toward the Millenial is coming from the corporations/establishment.

They buy local, shop pre-owned everything & stay away from big box stores.

A majority are vegans/vegetarians & prefer local farmers markets and food co-ops.

The establishment can't seem to pin them down with marriage, a brood of children & house/car payments.

They are not religious & believe in abortion so only the extreme losers will vote republican & they will end up in white supremacist groups.

Beyond a new cell phone every several years & student loans, they are pretty much free agents.

I think the question is, can they eventually be brainwashed into becoming boomers? So far, public shaming/blaming is not working.

Another great response. This is my most successful thread attempt ever. Thanks guys!
Your reply echoes one of the articles that I did not read, but rather had read to me via Dave Ramsey earlier in the week.
I think it was from CNN. Money Mag. They were lamenting the reluctance of Millenials to take on debt. They thought that it was due to fear of using credit and spending money they do not have! Dave was apoplectic and bemused reading such on the air. That is one thing the current new generations have going for them is their caution to go saddle themselves with debt. They've already heard the horror stories of older brothers and sisters and upper class men who took out outrageous student debt to get a questionable degree that is not able to land them a job in the real world. Granted there are still plenty of both the Gen-Xerrs and i-Gens who have made a career out of attending college and delaying entry into the real world.

Because the job market is evolving every 5 years they tend to change their majors often and are 6th year seniors and plotting their masters all the while racking up a debt they'd prefer not to think about.

Neither group is in any hurry or even able to put down roots and settle into home mortgages and family life. Women tend to mature more quickly and are more stable at an earlier age than their male counterparts generally speaking.
While males are still in gamer mode and content to live in the basement at home a few extra years with their favorite FPS game and hanging out with their buds.
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Post: #34
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It's the schools that did it.

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Post: #35
RE: America is Changing, Have You Noticed?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 04:12 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 02:57 PM)
Lately, I've read a lot of articles about how things are changing in one are or other of American society and culture.

Grocery stores are going out of business left and right. The newer generations don't cook at home.
They order out.

DIY stores are in trouble because their customer base of people who fix things and upgrade their homes.
Younger generations aren't interested in owning their own home. They rent apartments and homes.
They can't even hammer a nail without instructions apparently or do more than change a lightbulb.

Millenials and I-gens aren't interested in cars or driving. It may be the real driving force in having self driving cars because they could see that their business models were going to suffer well into the future.
But, that is not the answer. These will probably just expect to rely on Uber or taxis to get them anywhere.

They have been the driving force behind the growth of Amazon and personal shopping stores like Shipt.
They don't want to shop, they want a box delivered to their door because well, they aren't driving, see the above.

Newer generations don't go to church as much.
They don't watch NFL football.
They don't watch network TV and News. And that's probably a good thing.

In short, the apple pie, football, cars, and America meme of who America thinks they are is changing.
The fundamental identity of being a prosperous and "good" people is diverging, as well.

We are not a melting pot. We are a double boiler that is distilling us into distinct haves and have nots.
We are becoming diverse on the one hand and completely hand-held two dimensional on the other.

How do you see the landscape of America as a country going forward? Suburban subdivisions sprouting up as far as the eye can see going away and going back to seedy overgrowth as these new gens seek life in gentrified inner city dwellings? Walkable cities and bikeable closeness being their chief requirements?

All due to the creation of the Internet. We don't have choices anymore, only the illusion of having many choices. Everywhere you look or turn that company or persons you see working for a particular company or the stuff you buy of a particular company is really a tentacle of a much bigger parent company that you probably dislike or don't trust etc... Perfect example is Amazon and what theyre doing. Or Clorox or Nestle etc...


What you think is rare or different or out of the box, or exclusive,,, is nothing but inclusive.

Our children's generation(and after them) will not know this. All we can do is inform them about this illusion.


The internet made this possible. Yes there are many pros in having the internet , but at the end its a perfect vehicle to remove the ability to choose and trick the masses that they have an infinite amount of choices .


Well they don't.

I actually agree with you. I do think we are just beginning to understand the social upheaval of Life pre and post Internet.
Some of it is for the good, but probably a preponderance of it is for ill.
I say that as I glance around me perfectly happy to be alone in my study miles from the nearest town!
I prefer the company of anonymous folks on the internet than the people I am acquainted with in my real life.
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Post: #36
RE: America is Changing, Have You Noticed?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 05:34 PM)
Rayne  Wrote: (10-12-2017 05:25 PM)
I think the campaign of animosity toward the Millenial is coming from the corporations/establishment.

They buy local, shop pre-owned everything & stay away from big box stores.

A majority are vegans/vegetarians & prefer local farmers markets and food co-ops.

The establishment can't seem to pin them down with marriage, a brood of children & house/car payments.

They are not religious & believe in abortion so only the extreme losers will vote republican & they will end up in white supremacist groups.

Beyond a new cell phone every several years & student loans, they are pretty much free agents.

I think the question is, can they eventually be brainwashed into becoming boomers? So far, public shaming/blaming is not working.

Of course they like to shop local.
They can't afford cars and wouldn't know how to drive one.

The supermarkets are closing because the kids don't cook.

The kids live together in apts or stay at home because they can't
afford homes. They put off raising kids because they haven't got the
sense of responsibility to care for a cat let alone children.

It's cyclical. The Boomers were raised by stay at home Moms who hovered and nurtured. Their children became free spirits who didn't want all that Ozzy and Harriet scene, man. They sort of grew up and raised kids in a world where suddenly, it took both parents working just to bring home the money their parents did on one.
Inflation was rampant. Their kids were latchkey kids, and they were left to their devices much more than their Boomer parents ever were but resented it.

When they grew up and had families they were back to being hovering helicopter parents rushing their children off to this sport and that after school activity and making their children into the focus of the family and enforcing over-achievement.

The children of the hover moms are now sitting in their basements allowing them to take care of their every whim, but at a distance. They prefer interactions with the parental unit via a text from upstairs, while they contemplate their latest college major and where they left off on the joystick.

But, this is describing mostly white kids. There is a whole other cycle that has gone on with black kids, generationally that has not changed much, but become more entrenched since the '60s.
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Post: #37
RE: America is Changing, Have You Noticed?
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (10-12-2017 06:35 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 06:31 PM)
That's not really a surprise. With the shift away from a real manufacturing economy to a service oriented economy, different industries will be affected differently.

Hopefully the tides will swing back to manufacturing and production, as a service industry can not sustain itself infinitely without imploding.

The best scenario is a moderate mix of both, similar to the American economy between 1950 and 1980s/90s.

Lets' not, and come up with different methods and something better taking those era's as mistakes.

Images: This is without that base.

link to image: http://news.stanford.edu/news/2010/march...g_news.jpg

This is with that base.

link to image: https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/03/...ter675.jpg

Do you see a problem? Or can you see it at all?

Is that the world and place you really want to live in?

Point well taken and well made!

Yes, they want to rave about the advances that industry has made to make cleaner air by cutting automobile emissions, but really, it was the closing of the manufacturing base that led to the cleaner air.
The hue and cry for clean air and water was answered but at the cost of many well paying jobs.

The answer would be to go back to having Americans, not Mexicans and Guatamalens picking the fruit and veggies. But, most don't want to do that.
We need to think about what jobs pays for what service rendered.

We need food. We need to spend time and money restoring and rebuilding agriculture and aquaculture virtually allowed to be destroyed single-handedly by Monsatanto.

We don't need a world of supplying widgets to the masses.
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Post: #38
RE: America is Changing, Have You Noticed?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 02:57 PM)
Lately, I've read a lot of articles about how things are changing in one are or other of American society and culture.

Grocery stores are going out of business left and right. The newer generations don't cook at home.
They order out.

DIY stores are in trouble because their customer base of people who fix things and upgrade their homes.
Younger generations aren't interested in owning their own home. They rent apartments and homes.
They can't even hammer a nail without instructions apparently or do more than change a lightbulb.

Millenials and I-gens aren't interested in cars or driving. It may be the real driving force in having self driving cars because they could see that their business models were going to suffer well into the future.
But, that is not the answer. These will probably just expect to rely on Uber or taxis to get them anywhere.

They have been the driving force behind the growth of Amazon and personal shopping stores like Shipt.
They don't want to shop, they want a box delivered to their door because well, they aren't driving, see the above.

Newer generations don't go to church as much.
They don't watch NFL football.
They don't watch network TV and News. And that's probably a good thing.

In short, the apple pie, football, cars, and America meme of who America thinks they are is changing.
The fundamental identity of being a prosperous and "good" people is diverging, as well.

We are not a melting pot. We are a double boiler that is distilling us into distinct haves and have nots.
We are becoming diverse on the one hand and completely hand-held two dimensional on the other.

How do you see the landscape of America as a country going forward? Suburban subdivisions sprouting up as far as the eye can see going away and going back to seedy overgrowth as these new gens seek life in gentrified inner city dwellings? Walkable cities and bikeable closeness being their chief requirements?

What? People claiming to be black don't like ranch no more? Call in the national guard. Looks like a very similar level of death across the board to me it's just they done killed off most the humans so they can't loosh off them.

Your future? Most of the "incarnies" are retarded mentally (it seems to me) to prevent future incursions in the spirit. But what do I know...

You know children used to be smart and do smart things to show that level of intelligence now they look like aphrodykie trying to re-park her car to trigger some mental event so she can get a cup of coffee in her full adult training bra.
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RE: America is Changing, Have You Noticed?
so what
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-13-2017 04:17 AM)
so what

OK, that's a valid question.

Too bad your attention span is too short to learn the answer.

chuckle
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Post: #41
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-13-2017 04:17 AM)
so what

So, I thought it was an interesting topic.
You have to know the context. I was raised in a time and place that put great store in the stability of the system. You were sold it from school to the TV and family.
You almost believe it true. You could not imagine what would come along to change everything short of war on our doorsteps.

Yet, a massive change has come to the people without firing a shot. There was a takeover. There was an insidious to the foundation stones, revelation of truth to who we were before and are now.

It inarguably began in the '60s. With the Vietnam War. The assassination of the President. The civil rights movement on the one side of the balance and the "Great Society" debacle on the other. The unleashing of Playboy and the Sexual revolution and the unraveling of this aforementioned supposed civil society and system that was set in stone.

It has been upended and for better or worse we are people who do not have any basic foundation on where or what to build the future in any sort of cohesive way.
Mainly because there are no shared values as a people that are worthwhile, save the Constitution and the Bible or a universally accepted moral compass of some sort.
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Post: #42
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-13-2017 04:26 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-13-2017 04:17 AM)
so what

OK, that's a valid question.

Too bad your attention span is too short to learn the answer.

chuckle

so the consumer-capitalist paradigm with its exploitation, over-saturation, and accompanying petrol empire that is propped up by all the car/truck driving automatons that collectively release metric f*#k tons of clean air defiling exhaust daily is now brought into question by forces of balance...

so what.
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personally i get tired of looking at and moving in concrete grid laden, combustion engine vehicular dinosaur driven, square box warehouse impregnated areas
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RE: America is Changing, Have You Noticed?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-13-2017 04:41 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-13-2017 04:26 AM)
OK, that's a valid question.

Too bad your attention span is too short to learn the answer.

chuckle

so the consumer-capitalist paradigm with its exploitation, over-saturation, and accompanying petrol empire that is propped up by all the car/truck driving automatons that collectively release metric f*#k tons of clean air defiling exhaust daily is now brought into question by forces of balance...

so what.

Lmao

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-13-2017 04:48 AM)
personally i get tired of looking at and moving in concrete grid laden, combustion engine vehicular dinosaur driven, square box warehouse impregnated areas

So... Move?

It is what it is and you are who you are.

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