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Whu-hu! Found Shooters' perch in LV
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Post: #32
RE: Whu-hu! Found Shooters' perch in LV
Here are these tanks and they look about the right distance from the venue with unobstructed vision and elevated position. They would be easy to access, and maybe that's why Paddock had the explosive rounds if they are fuel tanks, so that he could take out the other shooter if his position was compromised.

36.094179, -115.167955

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Post: #33
RE: Whu-hu! Found Shooters' perch in LV
Has anyone checked the flights leaving that airport because that's probably how they got away, I bet there's a suspicious flight right around 10:25, that'd be roughly 10 minutes after the shooting stopped, enough time to get down off that tank and into a plane.
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Post: #34
RE: Whu-hu! Found Shooters' perch in LV
I bet they picked the Mandalay Bay position(s) to hit the people right next to the stage, and then the alternate position (I think tanks) in order to hit the people in the back and sides.

Because those bleachers do sort of block the line of vision from the fuel tanks but the Mandalay Position could hit them. I bet Paddock or whoever was in the hotel was supposed to open fire first, then drive the crowd back where the shooter(s) at the tanks could hit them easily.
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RE: Whu-hu! Found Shooters' perch in LV
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 06:48 PM)
Bic  Wrote: (10-12-2017 05:27 PM)
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Another view from a YT video using Google

I admit my added arrows add nothing in a technical sense

Permission freely given for msm to use any of these I'm posting chuckle

link to image: https://i.imgur.com/73myZs3.png

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The only thing I don't like about that position is that the crowd is obscured by the stage.

But that billboard has clear line of site to the whole venue, however I think it's closer than 275 yards.

Maybe he was using a different round than .223?

Using the scale at Google satellite view
from hotel window ~350m
from tower ~125m

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Post: #36
RE: Whu-hu! Found Shooters' perch in LV
Fallingdown  Wrote: (10-12-2017 04:27 PM)
so all of the shell casings on the 32nd floor were fake right and the windows were not knocked out ?

The windows were knocked out, and ll 50 (or so) of the shells scattered around looked real. We all know that shells can be planted, don't we?
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Post: #37
RE: Whu-hu! Found Shooters' perch in LV
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 07:41 PM)
Fallingdown  Wrote: (10-12-2017 04:27 PM)
so all of the shell casings on the 32nd floor were fake right and the windows were not knocked out ?

The windows were knocked out, and ll 50 (or so) of the shells scattered around looked real. We all know that shells can be planted, don't we?

Obviously Bundy's don't.

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RE: Whu-hu! Found Shooters' perch in LV
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 07:01 PM)
Here are these tanks and they look about the right distance from the venue with unobstructed vision and elevated position. They would be easy to access, and maybe that's why Paddock had the explosive rounds if they are fuel tanks, so that he could take out the other shooter if his position was compromised.

36.094179, -115.167955

https://www.google.com.mx/maps/place/36%...15.1679547

Paddock couldn't hit a barn if he was inside with the doors closed. I'd be really pleased if he wasn't mentioned again in this thread.

Those airport fuel tanks are a hell of a lot closer to the towers than the hotel. Not sure I'd want to be planning on escaping on a flight out of the airport after they went boom though. Flights could be canceled for one thing.

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Has anyone checked the flights leaving that airport because that's probably how they got away, I bet there's a suspicious flight right around 10:25, that'd be roughly 10 minutes after the shooting stopped, enough time to get down off that tank and into a plane.

Other hotels were having (drive by?) shootings around 11:30. Not the same people pulling triggers maybe, but still...
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Post: #39
RE: Whu-hu! Found Shooters' perch in LV
Bic  Wrote: (10-12-2017 07:51 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 07:01 PM)
Here are these tanks and they look about the right distance from the venue with unobstructed vision and elevated position. They would be easy to access, and maybe that's why Paddock had the explosive rounds if they are fuel tanks, so that he could take out the other shooter if his position was compromised.

36.094179, -115.167955

https://www.google.com.mx/maps/place/36%...15.1679547

Paddock couldn't hit a barn if he was inside with the doors closed. I'd be really pleased if he wasn't mentioned again in this thread.

Those airport fuel tanks are a hell of a lot closer to the towers than the hotel. Not sure I'd want to be planning on escaping on a flight out of the airport after they went boom though. Flights could be canceled for one thing.

LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 07:13 PM)
Has anyone checked the flights leaving that airport because that's probably how they got away, I bet there's a suspicious flight right around 10:25, that'd be roughly 10 minutes after the shooting stopped, enough time to get down off that tank and into a plane.

Other hotels were having (drive by?) shootings around 11:30. Not the same people pulling triggers maybe, but still...

Okay well then the Mandalay shooter(s) is what I'll call them. But the video is solid, this is what is lacking from any of these mass murder events, logic and reason.

It's sad when the public has to do the authorities work for them and still the narrative doesn't change to protect the jobs of the incompetent.
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Post: #40
RE: Whu-hu! Found Shooters' perch in LV
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 06:18 PM)
Fallingdown  Wrote: (10-12-2017 06:02 PM)
The pillars that you claim a second shooter was at. Are made of concrete . I know hard to Pirch in a window then .


WIKI^^^^

for perspective look at the orange barrel for size comparison. There's no place for a maintenance shaft . there was a scaffolding type access while it was under construction.


link to image: https://i.imgur.com/BPTaAq7.jpg


now look at this pic with the scaffolding removed .

link to image: https://i.imgur.com/Reph7Xj.jpg



my question is two part how did he get up there carrying a rifle in hundreds if not thousands of rounds of ammunition .


Take a peek....https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0936452,-115.1710352,3a,15y,220.73h,92.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sg0fT5eq9t2xRWXdzcR0jxQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

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RE: Whu-hu! Found Shooters' perch in LV
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 06:48 PM)
The only thing I don't like about that position is that the crowd is obscured by the stage.

Trying to visualize how much. The line is going tower to over the center front of the stage roof (not the right front) as seen from tower, if you can see what I'm doing.

Obviously the tower had no line of sight to up near the front of the stage.

BTW, I've noticed the FBI is being cagey about where people were when hit. AP photos are involved in that. As far as I've seen, they are pushing the idea of people hit stage center to left (if you are standing on stage) and within 30-40m of the stage.

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RE: Whu-hu! Found Shooters' perch in LV
Bic  Wrote: (10-12-2017 07:51 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 07:01 PM)
Here are these tanks and they look about the right distance from the venue with unobstructed vision and elevated position. They would be easy to access, and maybe that's why Paddock had the explosive rounds if they are fuel tanks, so that he could take out the other shooter if his position was compromised.

36.094179, -115.167955

https://www.google.com.mx/maps/place/36%...15.1679547

Paddock couldn't hit a barn if he was inside with the doors closed. I'd be really pleased if he wasn't mentioned again in this thread.

Paddock, Paddock, Paddock, Paddock was the shooter. There is so much evidence pointing to Paddock being the one that did this. We have the time the shooting was happening, we have the room on the 32nd floor with doors locked until entered by a swat team, where obviously Paddock had been shooting lots of guns, 200 through the door and walls alone at the hotel security guy. So we know Paddock was in that room doing the shooting or where did the shooter go? He had some motive, he had the weapons he had the height and trajectory all figured for his types of weapons.

Paddock did this, Paddock, Paddock, Paddock, Paddock.

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Post: #43
RE: Whu-hu! Found Shooters' perch in LV
Bic  Wrote: (10-12-2017 08:27 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-12-2017 06:48 PM)
The only thing I don't like about that position is that the crowd is obscured by the stage.

Trying to visualize how much. The line is going tower to over the center front of the stage roof (not the right front) as seen from tower, if you can see what I'm doing.

Obviously the tower had no line of sight to up near the front of the stage.

BTW, I've noticed the FBI is being cagey about where people were when hit. AP photos are involved in that. As far as I've seen, they are pushing the idea of people hit stage center to left (if you are standing on stage) and within 30-40m of the stage.

link to image: https://i.imgur.com/aedTf7l.png

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Yah I see what you're doing with that picture, perhaps the shooters at the mandalay were to drive the crowd back so then the sniper at the tower could take them out.

Either way it looks like there's a few positions that a shooter could pick, and just as easy to go investigate each one but I bet all the agents are down at the casino getting comped services.
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Post: #44
RE: Whu-hu! Found Shooters' perch in LV
He Man  Wrote: (10-12-2017 08:32 PM)
Bic  Wrote: (10-12-2017 07:51 PM)

Paddock couldn't hit a barn if he was inside with the doors closed. I'd be really pleased if he wasn't mentioned again in this thread.

Paddock, Paddock, Paddock, Paddock was the shooter. There is so much evidence pointing to Paddock being the one that did this. We have the time the shooting was happening, we have the room on the 32nd floor with doors locked until entered by a swat team, where obviously Paddock had been shooting lots of guns, 200 through the door and walls alone at the hotel security guy. So we know Paddock was in that room doing the shooting or where did the shooter go? He had some motive, he had the weapons he had the height and trajectory all figured for his types of weapons.

Paddock did this, Paddock, Paddock, Paddock, Paddock.

Dang you're shilling this one?

Lmao
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I'll just leave these here without too much comment for now.

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Note the structure extending out from center stage. It has a fenced off channel going from stage front to the building.
Picture below shows people huddled in that channel.

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