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The war on coal is over. Coal lost.
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The war on coal is over. Coal lost.
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Coal can’t compete with cheaper clean energy. The Trump administration can’t save expensive, dirty energy.

Quote:Pruitt’s Clean Power Plan repeal justification is largely based on bogus economics, which the Trump administration is using to reduce government estimates of the ‘social cost of carbon.’ This figure – which estimates how much a ton of carbon pollution costs society in terms of damages caused by climate change – is integral to many government policies. A majority of economists think the government’s estimate is too low, but Pruitt’s EPA manipulated the math by ignoring the costs of America’s carbon pollution to the rest of the world, and by using a high discount rate, which essentially says we care more about saving money now than preventing climate damages and suffering for future generations.

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RE: The war on coal is over. Coal lost.
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RE: The war on coal is over. Coal lost.
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I love you idiots...

When the grid goes down either from age, inefficiency or attack...you are so going to wish you had a couple lumps of coal to stave off freezing to death in winter. I really hope you live somewhere that gets really cold.

Beyond that, coal liquification to gasoline works but it is very inefficient. Once oil prices start to rise again and get to a certain point, the liquification process will become more viable from a cost perspective. There was a liquification plant not 10 miles from where I lived as a kid. It works just fine but this was back in the 70's and oil was a lot cheaper then. It couldn't compete back then...but it will eventually.

Coal is not going away fucktard...it will be back in due time...

I plan on making as much acid rain as possible just to piss dipshits like you off....

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Meh but Obama's policies on still gone and in the end that is all that really matters.Lmao
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RE: The war on coal is over. Coal lost.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-16-2017 06:41 PM)
Meh but Obama's policies on still gone and in the end that is all that really matters.Lmao

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RE: The war on coal is over. Coal lost.
well I live in coal country and they are mining like crazy here
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10-16-2017 06:50 PM

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China and south Africa are already liquefying coal to make gasoline. Along with many such projects in the US.

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RE: The war on coal is over. Coal lost.
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (10-16-2017 06:29 PM)
Coal can’t compete with cheaper clean energy. The Trump administration can’t save expensive, dirty energy.

Quote:Pruitt’s Clean Power Plan repeal justification is largely based on bogus economics, which the Trump administration is using to reduce government estimates of the ‘social cost of carbon.’ This figure – which estimates how much a ton of carbon pollution costs society in terms of damages caused by climate change – is integral to many government policies. A majority of economists think the government’s estimate is too low, but Pruitt’s EPA manipulated the math by ignoring the costs of America’s carbon pollution to the rest of the world, and by using a high discount rate, which essentially says we care more about saving money now than preventing climate damages and suffering for future generations.

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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/...-coal-lost

This is mostly bullshit.

I'm sure there is some downsides to burning coal, but I can't think of any offhand.

The benefits of burning coal are over $1 trillion per year - and that is just from the 60% more fish, food, and fiber from post 1900 CO2.

The massive number of wild animals that we saved from extinction with more CO2 hasn't been tallied.

If we burn enough coal we could be getting half of our food (100% increase) from more CO2.
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RE: The war on coal is over. Coal lost.
Damrod  Wrote: (10-16-2017 06:36 PM)
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I love you idiots...

When the grid goes down either from age, inefficiency or attack...you are so going to wish you had a couple lumps of coal to stave off freezing to death in winter. I really hope you live somewhere that gets really cold.

Beyond that, coal liquification to gasoline works but it is very inefficient. Once oil prices start to rise again and get to a certain point, the liquification process will become more viable from a cost perspective. There was a liquification plant not 10 miles from where I lived as a kid. It works just fine but this was back in the 70's and oil was a lot cheaper then. It couldn't compete back then...but it will eventually.

Coal is not going away fucktard...it will be back in due time...

I plan on making as much acid rain as possible just to piss dipshits like you off....

Spoken like a true west virgina tard.

West virgina would rather starve then reinvent itself.
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10-16-2017 08:00 PM

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RE: The war on coal is over. Coal lost.
Bring back coal and remove the regulations!

Make Black Lung Disease Great Again!!


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RE: The war on coal is over. Coal lost.
Look at the LOSERS whine. Music to my ears. Now go PAY the GLOBAL carbon tax or be EXTERMINATED, Pay up and they will immediately SAVE THE WORLD!!!
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Most of my family lives in coal country, it's polluted their air and water.
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The truth is WV hills are filled with marijuana and the people are oxycontin adicts!

That's the real truth about WV.

Oh and the dog and rooster fights.
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RE: The war on coal is over. Coal lost.
Damrod  Wrote: (10-16-2017 06:36 PM)
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I love you idiots...

When the grid goes down either from age, inefficiency or attack...you are so going to wish you had a couple lumps of coal to stave off freezing to death in winter. I really hope you live somewhere that gets really cold.

Beyond that, coal liquification to gasoline works but it is very inefficient. Once oil prices start to rise again and get to a certain point, the liquification process will become more viable from a cost perspective. There was a liquification plant not 10 miles from where I lived as a kid. It works just fine but this was back in the 70's and oil was a lot cheaper then. It couldn't compete back then...but it will eventually.

Coal is not going away fucktard...it will be back in due time...

I plan on making as much acid rain as possible just to piss dipshits like you off....

Actually coal to gasoline techniques. Are viable, efficient and until three years ago competitive .

Thread killer and I have no reservations whatsoever .


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RE: The war on coal is over. Coal lost.
Damrod  Wrote: (10-16-2017 06:36 PM)
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I love you idiots...

When the grid goes down either from age, inefficiency or attack...you are so going to wish you had a couple lumps of coal to stave off freezing to death in winter. I really hope you live somewhere that gets really cold.

Beyond that, coal liquification to gasoline works but it is very inefficient. Once oil prices start to rise again and get to a certain point, the liquification process will become more viable from a cost perspective. There was a liquification plant not 10 miles from where I lived as a kid. It works just fine but this was back in the 70's and oil was a lot cheaper then. It couldn't compete back then...but it will eventually.

Coal is not going away fucktard...it will be back in due time...

I plan on making as much acid rain as possible just to piss dipshits like you off....
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