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Breaking - Mass shooting in Cali bar
GrimShaw
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Post: #46
RE: Breaking - Mass shooting in Cali bar
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Disturbed  Wrote: (11-08-2018 01:36 PM)
GrimShaw  Wrote: (11-08-2018 01:28 PM)
You can't get hand grenades unless they're homemade or unless you got some kind of super illegal hookup..

It's (allegedly) really easy to get hand grenades here in NL. Costs $5-$20 a piece.

They're used quite a bit here in NL. They are often left at doors of bars and such. Mayors then shut down those bars which make me think it's criminals who try to shake down bar owners.

My point is, that if they are that easy to get here in NL, i think it must even be easier in the US

You can't have them at all. No licensing exists in any state making it legal to own them. Only the military can possess live grenades. So if you're caught with one you are screwed..

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11-08-2018 01:57 PM

 



Post: #47
RE: Breaking - Mass shooting in Cali bar
Disturbed  Wrote: (11-08-2018 01:36 PM)
GrimShaw  Wrote: (11-08-2018 01:28 PM)
You can't get hand grenades unless they're homemade or unless you got some kind of super illegal hookup..

It's (allegedly) really easy to get hand grenades here in NL. Costs $5-$20 a piece.

They're used quite a bit here in NL. They are often left at doors of bars and such. Mayors then shut down those bars which make me think it's criminals who try to shake down bar owners.

My point is, that if they are that easy to get here in NL, i think it must even be easier in the US

Nope, hand grenades are not an easy item to obtain in the states. Their use in domestic incidents in the US is pretty well non existent.
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Post: #48
RE: Breaking - Mass shooting in Cali bar
Disturbed  Wrote: (11-08-2018 01:36 PM)
GrimShaw  Wrote: (11-08-2018 01:28 PM)
You can't get hand grenades unless they're homemade or unless you got some kind of super illegal hookup..

It's (allegedly) really easy to get hand grenades here in NL. Costs $5-$20 a piece.

They're used quite a bit here in NL. They are often left at doors of bars and such. Mayors then shut down those bars which make me think it's criminals who try to shake down bar owners.

My point is, that if they are that easy to get here in NL, i think it must even be easier in the US

That's a common occurance there? Are they discovered before or after exploding?
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RE: Breaking - Mass shooting in Cali bar
Hand grenades aren't even used in law enforcement and I would even say fairly uncommon in the military. Grenades are usually launched and I would guess most are unarmed unless used with their launcher. Either way they are virtually unheard of in the US.
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Post: #50
RE: Breaking - Mass shooting in Cali bar
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-08-2018 01:57 PM)
Disturbed  Wrote: (11-08-2018 01:36 PM)
It's (allegedly) really easy to get hand grenades here in NL. Costs $5-$20 a piece.

They're used quite a bit here in NL. They are often left at doors of bars and such. Mayors then shut down those bars which make me think it's criminals who try to shake down bar owners.

My point is, that if they are that easy to get here in NL, i think it must even be easier in the US

That's a common occurance there? Are they discovered before or after exploding?

Before in most cases. They're tied to the door or put on the street.. In a few cases after exploding..

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RE: Breaking - Mass shooting in Cali bar
Disturbed  Wrote: (11-08-2018 02:14 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-08-2018 01:57 PM)
That's a common occurance there? Are they discovered before or after exploding?

Before in most cases. They're tied to the door or put on the street.. In a few cases after exploding..

I think it's like how guns can't be controlled in Illinois. All of the states that surround Illinois (Chicago) have guns legal. In Europe you're bordering how many other countries..?

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Post: #52
RE: Breaking - Mass shooting in Cali bar
"Borderline" grill, really? at least it was country night, not caravan night
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Post: #53
RE: Breaking - Mass shooting in Cali bar
Reading 4 different news stories on this.
Witnesses say the man pointed at cash register
and then moved into a cash room.
Sounds like a brutal attempt at robbery.

Just because there are 13 dead.
And the Gunman had a HAT!
Dont Jump on the False Flag WAGGON!

NO REPORTS Say MAGA HAT & 13!

Note: It was a Country & Western Event!
And Gunmans NAME is Still Not Given!

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Post: #54
RE: Breaking - Mass shooting in Cali bar
Яudis  Wrote: (11-08-2018 02:31 PM)
Reading 4 different news stories on this.
Witnesses say the man pointed at cash register
and then moved into a cash room.
Sounds like a brutal attempt at robbery.

Just because there are 13 dead.
And the Gunman had a HAT!
Dont Jump on the False Flag WAGGON!

NO REPORTS Say MAGA HAT & 13!

Note: It was a Country & Western Event!
And Gunmans NAME is Still Not Given!

The robbery motive doesn't make sense to me. If you were robbing a place wouldn't you want to be able to get away? Why choose a popular establishment full of people who could potentially ID you? And wouldn't killing people be the last thing on your mind as getting away with whatever you were trying to get would be a lot harder with murder on your name. I can imagine a couple people being killed in a robbery gone wrong. 13 dead sounds a bit more deliberate, a bit more like someone who made a choice that they were already going to die that day so they may as well go out with a bang.
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Post: #55
RE: Breaking - Mass shooting in Cali bar
Time will tell I guess.
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ABCDEF_Jesus
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11-08-2018 02:39 PM

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Post: #56
RE: Breaking - Mass shooting in Cali bar
GrimShaw  Wrote: (11-08-2018 01:42 PM)
You can't have them at all. No licensing exists in any state making it legal to own them. Only the military can possess live grenades. So if you're caught with one you are screwed..

A live grenade is one with the pin pulled. And an active shooter is one who is still shooting at the time of the call. Pet peeves sorry

I blame the victims. Ban congregation!

PS its not a robbery, you'd wait until they were counting the money alone, not full of people. It's MK Ultra is what it is. Perp is probably ex military or has Facebook.
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general mishka
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Post: #57
RE: Breaking - Mass shooting in Cali bar
a gang hit could be both a robbery and mass casualty event

I just cant see the Crips, MI 13 or bloods hanging out at a Country Western Bar.....Hells angels maybe
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Яudis
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11-08-2018 02:43 PM

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Post: #58
RE: Breaking - Mass shooting in Cali bar
FROM the LINK. What Witnesses said.
It sounds like a Brutal Failed ROBBERY!
Gunman, pointed register area then
Moved into Cash Room Area.

"He fired the first shot. (I knew it was live. I knew it was real.) My son thought
it was a joke so I pulled him down and got some cover. I looked up and he was
moving to the right. He shot the front doorman, who was just a young man.
Then he shot the cashier, just a young girl.

"Then he started moving to the right. He wasn't looking at us.
Then he went into the office, where all the cash and stuff is.
He didn't say anything at all. He just started shooting," he said.

It appears as if he went straight for the cash!
https://abc7.com/mass-shooting-reported-...s/4644573/

As Contrived as this part sounds!
Lets just wait and see what develops!
(I knew it was live. I knew it was real.)

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Sing-I'llSway
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11-08-2018 02:59 PM

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Post: #59
RE: Breaking - Mass shooting in Cali bar
Яudis  Wrote: (11-08-2018 02:31 PM)
Dont Jump on the False Flag WAGGON!


I came here to crucify the conspiracy fundamentalist-hordes for doing just that (hasn't even been 6 hours yet; no one "knows" anything....).

Pleased to see minimal amounts of it. Thus far...

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GrimShaw
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Post: #60
RE: Breaking - Mass shooting in Cali bar
Sing-IllSway  Wrote: (11-08-2018 02:59 PM)
Яudis  Wrote: (11-08-2018 02:31 PM)
Dont Jump on the False Flag WAGGON!


I came here to crucify the conspiracy fundamentalist-hordes for doing just that (hasn't even been 6 hours yet; no one "knows" anything....).

Pleased to see minimal amounts of it. Thus far...

Disturbed has probably been modding heavily is why I bet. I know for sure on some of it that's gone poof. Probably a lot more than what I saw..

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