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Get Smart! Epispde 52
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RE: Get Smart! Epispde 52
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The jets that hit the WTC flew over some of the secure airspace in the world, and no aircraft was scrambled even after the the planes were known to be hijacked.

Don't forget the flight of Binladen family members and other Saudi nationals that were allowed to leave the country despite a no fly order from the FAA.
Quote:Vanity Fair
Saving the Saudis
Just days after 9/11, wealthy Saudi Arabians, including members of the bin Laden family, were whisked out of the U.S. on private jets. No one will admit to clearing the flights, and the passengers weren’t questioned. Did the Bush family’s long relationship with the Saudis help make it happen?

Also WTC had a strange power down protocol the weekend before the attack, a very rare event which temporarily disables power to the buildings, and the security systems.
Quote:Feedback from the Progressive Review's Undernews for April 22, 2004.
We recieved the following from someone who worked for Fiduciary Trust on the 90th, 94-97th floors of the South Tower:
"On the weekend of 9/8,9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up. I am aware of this situation since I work in IT and had to work with many others that weekend to ensure that all systems were cleanly shutdown beforehand ... and then brought back up afterwards. The reason given by the WTC for the power down was that cabling in the tower was being upgraded ...
"Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower. I was at home on the morning of 9/11 on the shore of Jersey City, right opposite the Towers, and watching events unfold I was convinced immediately that something was happening related to the weekend work."
Quote:Heightened WTC Security Alert Had Just Been LiftedThe World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday [September 11]. Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks because of numerous phone threats. But on Thursday [September 6], bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed. Pre-9/11 World Trade Center Power-DownOn the weekend of 9/8, 9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up... "Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower."WTC Security Courtesy of Marvin Bush.

Osama's ties to to the CIA during the Soviet Occupation of Afghanistan and Bin Laden's Saudi Defense Contracts?
Quote:"Scott Armstrong: The Saudis have been the principal backers and financers of the largest armaments system that the world has ever seen, in any region of the world, that includes over $95 billion worth of weapons that they bought themselves, includes another $65 billion worth of military infrastructure and ports that they've put in. We've managed to create an interlocking system that has one master control base, five sub-control bases, any one of which is capable of operating the whole thing, that are in hardened bunkers, that are hard-wired, that is to say, against nuclear blast or anything else. They created nine major ports that weren't there before, dozens of airfields all over the kingdom. They have now hundreds of modern American fighter planes and the capability of adding hundreds more. The Saudis alone have spent $156 billion that I can document line by line, item by item, on weapons system and infrastructure to support this." (FRONTLINE Show #1112 Air Date: February 16, 1993 "The Arming of Saudi Arabia". Scott Armstrong is a top investigative reporter for the 'Washington Post'](For official PBS WebPage for the show, click here; for the transcript, click here)The contracts for building those bases, ports, and airfields went in part to Saudi construction companies. Osama's family company, Saudi Binladin Group (the name is spelled differently but it's the same family) is intimate with the Saudi royal family; moreover it is the biggest Saudi construction company (and also a giant in the telecommunications field). So as sure as death and taxes, Saudi Binladin Group got a nice chunk of that $200 billion. And while the bin Ladens were building those U.S. bases, who did Osama think was going to be using them? Martians?
Quote:Getting back to the matter of construction contracts, consider what happened after the Khobar Towers complex in Dhahran was bombed on June 25, 1996. Osama bin Laden was accused by the U.S. of masterminding that bombing, which killed 19 U.S. airmen and wounded about 500 others. Afterwards, a new 'super-secure' facility was erected:"The facility very likely is the most heavily guarded operational installation used by the US military. This, clearly, is what retired Army Gen. Wayne A. Downing had in mind when in 1996 he released a report criticizing security at Khobar Towers and recommending more extensive force protection measures. " In a supreme irony, the complex was built by the giant contractor, Saudi Binladin Group -- owned by the same family that produced international terrorist Osama bin Laden

And as mentioned, ole Bush's brother just happened to be a major shareholder with Securacom, the company in charge of security at the WTC and contracted to do literally until 9-11. The doomed John O'Neill, the FBI's top expert on Al-Qaeda, took the job as head of security there literally the day of 9-11. Jerome Hauer of Kroll kroll associates would later personally identify O'Neill's remains.

Another thing, cell phones don't work very well at 30,000 ft where some of the calls were made (at the time, they were in fact impossible). Another oddity that while at first consideration might seem to be an irrelevant, if not macabre point, about the alleged calls was the extremely calm demeanor and some odd behaviors of the callers, one of them, for example, using their first and name when talking to close family members. Some quotes and transcripts of those calls HERE. And here's a great write up that examines some of the issues with those calls...
Quote:Source
Any analysis of the cellphone and “airfone” calls from Flight 93 must begin with some basic, high-altitude cellphone facts. According to AT&T spokesperson Alexa Graf, cellphones are not designed for calls from the high altitudes at which most airliners normally operate. It was, in her opinion, a “fluke” that so many calls reached their destinations. In the opinion of a colleague of mine who has worked in the cellphone industry, it was a “miracle” that any of the calls got through from altitude. (See the recent proposal to install equipment to make cellphone calls possible from aircraft.) An aircraft, having a metal skin and fuselage, acts like a Faraday cage, tending to block or attenuate electromagnetic radiation. One can make a cellphone call from inside an aircraft while on the ground because the weakened signal is still close enough to the nearest cellsite (relay tower) to get picked up. Once above 10,000 feet, however, calls rarely get through, if ever.

Here is the statement of an experienced airline pilot: “The idea of being able to use a cellphone while flying is completely impractical. Once through about 10,000 feet, the thing is useless, since you are too high and moving too fast (and thus changing cells too rapidly) for the phone to provide a signal.” (AVWeb, 1999)

People boarding aircraft for the last decade or so have all heard the warnings to turn off their cellphones for the duration of the flight. The reasons for this regulation are somewhat mysterious, since the usual explanation, that delicate aircraft electronics might be affected by cellphone signals, is cast somewhat in doubt by the fact that all avionics are shielded from stray electromagnetic radiation. (Spitzer 1987) On the other hand, the FCC had apparently requested that airlines make this rule, owing to the tendency for cell phone calls made from aircraft at lower altitudes to create “cascades” that may lead to breakdown of cellsite operations. (Fraizer 2002)...
...In this connection it must be mentioned that the vast majority of telephone calls made every day in the United States pass through the AMDOCS Company billing system, a telephone facility headquartered in Israel which has long been suspected as providing a golden opportunity for anyone with real time access to the calls passing through the AMDOCS system to eavesdrop on conversations. (Curtiss 2003) (WRH 2004)

Osama denied the attacks, praised "whoever did this" but denied any personal involvement.
Quote:Sep 17, 2001 - DOHA, Qatar (CNN) -- Islamic militant leader Osama bin Laden, the man the United States considers the prime suspect in last week's terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, denied any role Sunday in the actions believed to have killed thousands

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RE: Get Smart! Epispde 52
The Beams were coated with asbestos, one of the many concerns raised during the WTC dust scare in NYC.
Quote:A lead engineer who worked on the WTC expressed shock that the towers collapsed from plane crashes. Lee Robertson, the tower's structural
engineer, addressed the problem of terrorism in the plans for the building, claiming he designed it for a (Boeing) 707 to hit it.
Lets examine Mr. Robertsons handiwork a bit more and take a look at how these towers were made...
Those 4 cranes you see in the photo, are perched atop the central support core of the tower. This core is built of sheer concrete reinforced by 44
beams of construction grade steel which were sealed in asbestos.

Immediately after WTC, several news outlets showed footage of arabs celebrating in the streets, that footage was discovered to be stock footage from the first gulf war produced under nefarious circumstances..
Quote:"Celebration Over World Trade Center Destruction Staged by Israeli MilitaryFootage of Palestinians rejoicing after the tragedies in Washington and New York on Sept. 11 has been mired in controversy. New information, however, indicates it was staged by the Israeli military public relations.
By Christopher Bollyn
The Palestinian children and woman (shown at right) allegedly celebrating the terror at tacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon on Sept. 11 was a "staged event" set up by "a team sent by the Israel Defense Ministry to film Pales tinian children rejoicing in East Jerusa lem," according to The Jerusalem Times of Sept. 14.
"A member of the team approached the Juhaina Sweets Shop and gave the owner 200 shekels [$45] and asked him to distribute the sweets to the children, according to the owner of the shop," the Times reported.
The fact that the children were being directed by a man in a white t-shirt is clearly seen on the complete video. How the children and video were manipulated for propaganda purposes was revealed on Germany's NDR TV program, Panorama, which reported that CNN had edited the footage and added voice-over explaining that the children were rejoicing because of the terrorism in the U.S. The CNN-edited footage was broadcast widely around the world.
Israeli political analyst Meron Benvenisti wrote in Ha aretz on Sept. 13, "A team from the Spokesman's Office of the Israel Defense Forces was sent to film the scenes of joy and candy being handed out in East Jerusalem 'for public relations purposes.' "

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RE: Get Smart! Epispde 52
More than a few people received warnings not to go to Down Town NYC that day.
Quote:http://www.nydailynews.com
"Some Got Warning: Don't Go Downtown on Sept. 11Some Got Warning: Don't Go Downtown on Sept. 11
Feds say Mid-Easterners knewof the coming danger
By GREG B. SMITH Daily News Staff Writer
Federal investigators have received evidence that some Middle Easterners in the New York area were warned ahead of time to stay out of lower Manhattan the morning of Sept. 11, the Daily News has learned.
The FBI was able to confirm several such warnings occurred but has been unable to discover the source of the warnings.
Quote:What is more informative than who failed to act on a tip, is who acted on a tip. A number of people apparently knew to stay clear of the World Trade Center on September 11th, 2001. Government Officials and Business LeadersThere is evidence that a group of Pentagon officials was warned to avoid the attack targets. Newsweek reported: 2 Three weeks ago there was another warning that a terrorist strike might be imminent - On September 10, Newsweek has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns.
A number of business leaders who would normally have been in the World Trade Center, were instead at a meeting hosted by Warren Buffet on September 11th at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha, Nebraska. That group included Anne Tatlock, CEO of Fiduciary Trust Inc., a company that occupied five floors on or above the 90th floor of the South Tower. 3 (This is the same Air Force Base that George W. Bush would fly to later that day. It has an underground command center.) 4 San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown admitted to having received a warning from what he described as his airport security late Monday evening, just hours before the attack. 5 Salman Rushdie, who is under the continuous protection of Scotland Yard, was prevented from flying on September 11th, 2001. Ariel Sharon, who was scheduled to give an address to Israeli support groups in New York City on September 11th, cancelled his plans the day before. Privilleged Companies According to reporter Christopher Bollyn, Zim American Israeli Shipping Co. broke a lease in order to vacate the World Trade Center just days before the attack. Bollyn's source claims that Zim's lease extended through the end of the year and that the termination cost $50,000."
Quote:http://www.freeworldalliance.com
Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.
Micha Macover, CEO of the company, said the two workers received the messages and immediately after the terror attack informed the company's management, which immediately contacted the Israeli security services, which brought in the FBI.
"I have no idea why the message was sent to these two workers, who don't know the sender. It may just have been someone who was joking and turned out they accidentally got it right. And I don't know if our information was useful in any of the arrests the FBI has made," said Macover. Odigo is a U.S.-based company whose headquarters are in New York, with offices in Herzliya. As an instant messaging service, Odigo users are not limited to sending
messages only to people on their "buddy" list, as is the case with ICQ, the other well-known Israeli instant messaging application.


The Israeli Spy Ring 'Art Student' scandal was suppressed by JINSA in particular, and the Muti-Part series onIsraeli Organized Crime Rings that was slated to run on Fox News was pulled before airing.
Quote:"JINSA Behind Drive To Cover-Up Israeli Spy ScandalExecutive Intelligence Review News Service1-6-2
(EIRNS) - One of the "Mega" agencies that mobilized to quash the Fox TV pick-up of our Israeli spy scandal was JINSA, the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs. JINSA President and CEO David Steinmann is also a director of CAMERA (Committee for Accurate Middle East Reporting in America), the group that actually staged the e-mail, fax, letter, and phone call mobilization that squeezed Fox TV, to the point that they removed the transcripts of the four Carl Cameron segments from their own web site.

Anthrax from government's biodefense labs at Fort Detrick in Frederick, Maryland. Robert Stevens was the only fatality, also happened to be the reporter that published the photos of Bush Daughters drunk.
Quote:Jan 24, 2002: Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle claims that on this day Cheney calls him and urges that no 9/11 inquiry be made. He is repeatedly pressured thereafter.
Quote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks
Al-Qaeda and Iraq blamed for attacks[edit]
Immediately after the anthrax attacks, White House officials repeatedly pressured FBI Director Robert Mueller to prove that they were a second-wave assault by al-Qaeda following the September 11 attacks. During the president's morning intelligence briefings, Mueller was "beaten up" for not producing proof that the killer spores were the handiwork of terrorist mastermind Osama Bin Laden, according to a former aide. "They really wanted to blame somebody in the Middle East," the retired senior FBI official stated. The FBI knew early on that the anthrax used was of a consistency requiring sophisticated equipment and was unlikely to have been produced in some "cave". At the same time, both President Bush and Vice President Cheney in public statements speculated about the possibility of a link between the anthrax attacks and Al Qaeda

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RE: Get Smart! Epispde 52
Just one month before the attacks, Larry Silverstien purchased the WTC Complex with money he borrowed from a company run by another Dual Citizen of Israel that went bankrupt shortly afterwards for a few paltry million bucks and literally made Billions on the Insurance Payout, later even suing them for MORE money.

Most of the Highjackers were reported to be Saudi Nationals, some of which turned up to be alive and well in other parts of the world, wondering why the US had them listed as dead terrorists.

The supposed mastermind of the plot was in the same resort George Bush was in within hours of each other.
Quote:'Bush and Atta Visit Same Resort in the Hours Leading to 9-11
More smoke, more fire.
by Daniel Hopsicker
July 29 Venice, FL.
Just three nights before President George W Bush arrived at the swank Colony Resort on Longboat Key on the evening of Sept 10, 2001, Mohamed Atta was staying at a slightly-less tony hotel just two miles down the beach, the Holiday Inn Hotel & Suites Longboat Key, according to eyewitnesses who contacted the FBI in the immediate aftermath of the attack. Predictably, the story went nowhere. So too did early wire reports stating that on the day of the attack Sarasota police said the Secret Service interrogated four Sudanese men after getting a tip that the men intended to harm President Bush during his visit to the city. The incident was found to be "unrelated" to the attacks, the AP reported, and ended in the release of the men....
Atta and Al-Shehhi's presence on Longboat Key just days before the President's arrival raise a number of disturbing questions.
The most pressing is also the most obvious. What were terrorists doing on Longboat Key?
Still, the Secret Service, no doubt very aware of Atta's suspicious presence on Longboat Key, has dismissed the
pre-dawn warning they received as "just coincidence."
This must mean that when, three days later, a van filled with Middle Eastern men attempted to gain entry to Bush's hotel by posing as journalists, it has nothing at all to do with "terrorist ringleader" Mohamed Atta's recent presence on Longboat Key.

Salem Bin Laden died in plane crash in texas, ties to Bush Family Arbusto etc.
Quote:Denver Post
With fewer than 50 ground troops surrounding the massive Tora Bora region in the mountains of Afghanistan where bin Laden was hiding, ground commanders pleaded for 800 more soldiers, according to Gary Berntsen, the CIA field commander whose book “Jawbreaker” goes into amazing detail about the botched paramilitary operation. Bernt- sen and other ground commanders said the U.S. let Osama bin Laden get away.
Was this because of President George Bush’s close ties to the bin Laden family?
In 1978, Bush and Osama bin Laden’s brother, Salem bin Laden, founded Arbusto Energy, an oil company based in Texas.
Several bin Laden family members invested millions in The Carlyle Group, a private global equity firm based in Washington, DC. The company’s senior advisor was Bush’s father, former President George H.W. Bush. After news of the bin Laden-Bush connection became public, the elder Bush stepped down from Carlyle.
Interestingly, on Sept. 11, 2001, members of the Carlyle Group – including Bush senior, and his former secretary of state, James Baker – were meeting at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Washington, D.C., along with Shafiq bin Laden, another one of Osama bin Laden’s brothers.

We were the biggest supporters of both Hussien and the Taliban, we created, trained, armed, supported, and made Bin Laden.

Unocal was lobbying Congress to literally bomb the Taliban into compliance with a pipeline deal prior to 9-11.

Bin Laden was meeting with CIA agents before 9-11 attack
Quote:Times of India.' It reports that according to the BBC program, 'Newsnight,' the Bush administration told the FBI to back off from investigating the bin Laden family's terrorist connections before the attack on the World Trade Center. According to the publication, 'Le Figaro,' a CIA agent visited Osama bin Laden last July. 'Figaro' reports that this meeting took place while bin Laden was being treated in the American Hospital in Dubai, one of the United Arab Emirates.

CNN ALSO reported that WTC had collapsed, BEFORE it actually collapsed.
Quote:[Image: cnn_01_20.jpg]
Source
CNN’s Aaron Brown searches for WTC 7 in the New York skyline after reporting that it had collapsed an hour early. The arrow points to WTC 7.

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RE: Get Smart! Epispde 52
Several others also reported prior knowledge of WTC's impending collapse...
Quote:http://www1.ae911truth.org
Numerous eyewitnesses, including members of the Fire Department of New York (FDNY) and other first responders, and multiple news sources, made statements that indicate that there was foreknowledge that WTC 7 was going to come down...
...a detailed study of the FDNY reports shows that of the thirty-three cases where the time of warning can be determined, in ten cases warnings were received two or more hours in advance, and in six cases warnings were apparently received four or more hours in advance...
In this BBC video, correspondent Jane Standley reports that Building 7 has collapsed; meanwhile (at the 1:17 mark), a fully intact Building 7 can actually be seen — still standing — behind her....
In another news clip, while Building 7 is seen standing fully erect and showing no signs of impending trauma, CNN’s Aaron Brown gives the following report: “We are getting information now that one of the other buildings, Building 7, in the World Trade Center complex, is on fire and has either collapsed or is collapsing…”
...More evidence of foreknowledge of the collapse of Building 7 is preserved in this video where an eyewitnesses can be heard saying: “Keep your eye on that building. It’ll be coming down soon.” And “The building is about to blow up. Move it back.” And also, “We are walking back. The building is about to blow up.”

These reports were later corroborated by first responder Indira Singh, who, in a radio interview about Building 7, revealed that the FDNY had stated that “We’re going to have to bring it down.“...
The testimony of Kevin McPadden, an emergency medical technician and 9/11 first responder, is even more shocking. In a taped interview, McPadden indicated that there was an actual countdown preceding Building 7’s collapse:..."...He came back over with his hand over the radio and [you could hear] what sounded like a countdown. And, at the last few seconds, he took his hand off [the radio] and you heard ‘three-two-one,’ and he was just saying, ‘Just run for your life! Just run for your life!’ And then it was like another two, three seconds, you heard explosions. Like, BA-BOOOOOM! And it’s like a distinct sound…BA-BOOOOOM! And you felt a rumble in the ground, like, almost like you wanted to grab onto something. That, to me, I knew that was an explosion."
And let us never forget Rudy Giuliani's lying ass...
Quote:Source
While being interviewed during the morning of 9/11 via telephone by Peter Jennings, who was then the anchor at ABC News, Giuliani said that after he learned about the attack on the World Trade Center:
"I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barclay Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it [the South Tower] did collapse before we could actually get out of the [Barclay Street] building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out.[2]"...
Giuliani’s statement to Jennings agreed in part with the account he later gave the 9/11 Commission, but he did not tell the Commission about being “told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse.” Also, whereas he had told Jennings that he was concerned that the Twin Towers were going to collapse, he told the Commission that he instead was worried that he and his people were “in danger in the [Barclay Street] building, that the building could come down.”

Although the 9/11 Commission failed to ask Giuliani about these contradictions, WNBC reported that in May 2007, he was asked about the Jennings interview by a small group of people with a video camera.[3] A young woman, after reminding Giuliani of his statement to Jennings that “no steel structure in history has ever collapsed due to a fire,” asked:
“How come people in the buildings weren’t notified? And who else knew about this? And how do you sleep at night?”

Giuliani replied:
“I didn’t know the towers were going to collapse.”

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Why won't NORAD make any statements regarding their own terribly flawed time line?
Quote:Source
Senator Dayton: NORAD Lied About 9/11
By Staff -
August 1, 2004
Mark Dayton has become the first U.S. senator to challenge the rush to consensus that “The 9/11 Commission Report” settles the open questions of Sept. 11, 2001.
In hearings last Friday, Sen. Dayton (D-MN) raised an obvious point: if the timeline of air defense response as promoted in the Kean Commission’s best-selling book is correct, then the timeline presented repeatedly by NORAD during the last two years was completely wrong. Yet now no one at NORAD is willing to comment on their own timeline!
Written by the government’s Kean Commission, the just-published “9/11 Commission Report” presents a timeline of air defense response that differs radically from all of the previous official stories.
Since Sept. 11 government representatives have in fact promoted a series of mutually contradictory narratives of how the nation’s air defenses responded to the unfolding attacks. Various chronologies were presented at different times by the high military command, the North American Air Defense command (NORAD), the Federal Aviation Administration, and now the Kean Commission....
Myers told the Senate that no fighter jets were scrambled to intercept any of the 9/11 flights until after the Pentagon was struck.
The Pentagon attack occurred at 9:38 a.m., a full 1 hour 20 minutes after the first of the 9/11 flights was diverted from its designated flight path.
Myers’s statement to the Senate was incredible, given the standard U.S. air defense protocols for dealing with errant instrument flights (including off-course passenger planes). In place many years before Sept. 11, these procedures are automatic and require no special order. Within minutes after a flight ceases to respond to ground control, the FAA is expected to alert NORAD – which scrambles jet fighters to intercept the errant flight for reconnaissance purposes. These are supposed to be airborne within 10 minutes of the problem arising.
This routine was activated on at least 67 occasions in the year prior to June 1, 2001 and on 129 occasions in 2000. Exceptional as the events of 9/11 proved to be, the procedures should have also been activated automatically within minutes of each flight diversion on that day (i.e., long before anyone needed to realize that hijackers would fly multiple airliners into buildings). This did not happen.

New York Court's decision denying the press' right to access the complete oral histories/interviews taken of firefighters' and other workers about 9/11 as well as access to phonecalls made to 911 on that day.

Patriot act magically being drafted in such a short amount of time
Quote:Truthout.org
The USA PATRIOT Act Was Planned Before 9/11
by Jennifer Van Bergen
Truthout.org
20 May, 2002
Many people do not know that the USA PATRIOT Act was already written and ready to go long before September 11th. Recent criticism of Bush's admission that he had received warnings only weeks before September 11th has made it more important to understand the origins of the USAPA.

Why are they supressing Sibel Edmonds

Explosions in the building not impacted by planes? Meet the WTC 6 building that exploded before the collapses and was widely reported...
[Image: explosion1_s.jpg]
[Image: gz_aerial_wtc6.jpg]

Why would the white house tell FBI agents to back off Bin Laden Family memebers who were here in the US?

FEMA arrived in NYC 9-10 2001
Quote:One of the most curious statements of the 9-11 history is the slip of Tom Kenney, the infamous FEMA Urban Search & Rescue worker. According to his statement to Dan Rather, the FEMA team arrived the night before 9-11...

Who was Geroge Bush Sr. Metting with the morning of 9-11 and where was everybody else that should have acted to prevent a second plane..
Quote:http://www.madcowprod.com
Daddy Bush and Cheney were in the SITUATION ROOM at the WHITE HOUSE during the terror attacks (during the 34 minutes between the second WTC hit and the PENTAGON hit while a stand down order was issued to the AIR FORCE to supersede established intercept
procedures for planes that stray off course).
Junior Bush was reading stories to grade school children during the attacks. He knew one plane had crashed into the WTC when the reading started. When his top aid Andrew Card whispered in his ear about the second plane hitting the WTC this was caught on videotape and is widely available on the internet. Junior Bush only looks up
and nods and then goes back to reading stories to the kids for 25 more minutes!! It clearly looks more like Card is informing Bush of an expected event. There was for example no time for Card to add AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER HIJACKED PLANES IN THE AIR. The Director of the WHITE HOUSE SITUATION ROOM where all military
crises are managed is with Junior Bush at the grade school. At the end of the 25 minutes of reading Bush goes immediately to the library of the school where a press conference was set. He says there I CALLED MY VICE PRESIDENT AND MY FBI DIRECTOR AND THE GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK. This was a lie!! There was not enough
time for that.
It takes $5 million to make the minimum investment in CARLYLE GROUP, the defense contractor investment group whose stock has gone up 37% since 911. The friends of Bush and Cheney are the other investors in CARLYLE GROUP along with the bin Ladens and John Major. CARLYLE GROUP was having their international investors conference in Washington D.C. at the RITZ CARLETON at the exact time of the 911 attacks. CARLYLE GROUP had a big interest in BIOPORT a company that was the sole source of ANTHRAX VACCINE for the PENTAGON. BIOPORT gave Admiral Crowe, the former Chairman of the JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF a 27% interest in the company for his pull
with the PENTAGON. Do I have to connect all the dots regarding the ANTHRAX ATTACK that was traced to US military sources?
It was widely reported by THE NEW YORK TIMES Feb. 17, 2002, MSNBC Oct. 7, 2001 and others that Pakistani ISI Chief, General Mahmud, wire transferred $100,000 to alleged lead terror pilot Mohammed Atta the week before the terror attacks. At the exact moment of the terror attacks Mahmud was having breakfast with the chairmen of the HOUSE (Rep. Porter Goss, R-Fla) and SENATE (Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla) INTELLIGENCE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES along with my senator Jon Kyl. I will have words with Kyl at the next opportunity. The $100,000 was sufficient to remove Mahmud from office but not enough for the light to go on in the brains of our top US intelligence officials!!
Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani Foreign Secretary, and others were told by senior American officials in mid-July that military action against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October. In an exercise, called Operation "Swift Sword" planned for four years, 23,000 British troops were on their way to Oman the day before the attacks. These troops were the ones used to assist the Americans in the Afghan invasion. At the same time two U.S. carrier battle groups arrived on station in the Gulf of Arabia just off the Pakistani coast. Also at the same time, some 17,000 U.S. troops join more than 23,000 NATO troops in Egypt for Operation "Bright Star." All of these forces were in place before the first plane hit the WTC! Dan Hopsicker found plenty of CIA connections to the flight school in Venice Florida where Atta and others trained and much more of this nature

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Building 7.. that is all.!
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Quote:Date: 11 Apr 2004 18:53:00
From: Tony Parkinson Subject: Bush Sr. met with Bin Laden's brother on 9/11
Bush Senior Met With Bin Laden's Brother on 9/11
Paul Joseph Watson
Comment: Despite studying September 11 for two years solid, one fact I only just discovered is that George W. Bush's father was meeting with Osama bin
Laden's brother, Shafig bin Laden, in the Ritz-Carlton Hotel, Washington, on the morning of 9/11. They were on Carlyle Group business just a few miles from where hijackers supposedly acting on behalf of Osama bin Laden would fly a plane into the Pentagon.
Recall that the chief financier of the so-called hijackers, Pakistan's Chief Spy General Mahmoud Ahmad, was meeting with Bush administration officials the week before 9/11. He also met with Bob Graham and Porter Goss on the morning of the attacks, who would later go on to head the first 9/11 investigative committee.
Quote:Bin Ladens Bail on Carlyle GroupFTW, Oct. 26, 2001, 1700 PDT - The New York Times is today reporting that, "The Saudi family of Osama bin Laden is severing its financial ties with the Carlyle Group, a private investment firm known for its connections to influential Washington political figures, executives who have been briefed on the decision said today." Some of those influential figures include George H.W. Bush and his son, our President.The Times story indicates that the decision by the bin Ladens was the result of "public controversy" about the family s investments in the nation s 11th largest defense contractor. The Carlyle Group employs former President George Bush, who met with the bin Laden family in Saudi Arabia in 1998 and 2000. As a result of explosive increases in the US defense budget the Carlyle Group is facing enormous windfall profits. And there is still strong suspicion that, in spite of mainstream reports indicating otherwise, the family has not severed all ties with the alleged mastermind of the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center.One of the most detailed investigative reports on bin Laden and Bush business connections was published by FTW just weeks ago. We know that it has received worldwide attention and close scrutiny within the Bush Administration.

WTC Blue Prints kepts from public
Quote:Interviews with a handful of members of the team, which includes some of the nation's most respected engineers, also uncovered complaints that they had at various times been shackled with bureaucratic restrictions that prevented them from interviewing witnesses, examining the disaster site and requesting crucial information like recorded distress calls to the police and fire departments.
The investigation, organized immediately after Sept. 11 by the American Society of Civil Engineers, the field's leading professional organization, has been financed and administered by the Federal Emergency Management Agency. A mismatch between the federal agency and senior engineers accustomed to bypassing protocol in favor of quick answers has been identified as a clear point of friction.
''This is almost the dream team of engineers in the country working on this, and our hands are tied,'' said one team member who asked not to be identified. Members have been threatened with dismissal for speaking to the press.
''FEMA is controlling everything,'' the team member said. ''It sounds funny, but just give us the money and let us do it, and get the politics out of it.''...
For example, three months after the disaster, Ronald Hamburger, an expert in structural analysis at A.B.S. Consulting in Oakland, Calif., and a director of the National Council of Structural Engineers Associations, said he had not even been given access to basic blueprints describing where the steel and other structural elements had been when the World Trade Center was whole.
''I'd like to be able to have a set of the drawings for all of the affected buildings,'' Mr. Hamburger said. ''I don't have that.''

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Failure of Fly By Wire...
The average passenger on board isn't likely to know if a pilot or a fly by wire system is operating the aircraft. In the 1980's, in the wake of several hijackings, they instituted a system in commercial airliners that would would allow control of these aircraft from an external source. The system is pretty much impossible to override once it has been initiated. Without anyone noticing anything was wrong? Air traffic control notified NORAD that the planes had been hijacked and Norad sat on their arses ALL MORNING while planes slammed into landmarks, then oddly enough refused later to comment on disrecpancies in their own timelines, Passing the respnosibility of scrambling fighters from Rumsfeld to General This or Commander That.
I have not said that I think the planes were in fact controlled remotely, but there is evidence presented in this thread that would suggest this may have indeed been the case. The fly by wire systems can be initiated from the FAA and were implemented for just such an event, however yes it is possible the system was 'hacked', but more likely a scenario is that they were overridden from an external source IMO. American AWACK aircraft have this capability, and really, anyone could for that matter given the right equipment or access. The implication is either the system was compromised as you suggest by the terrorists, which is highly unlikely if you know much about the systems, or that the system was overridden which would be indicitive of an inside operation. I just don't buy the official line that box wielding terrorists were able to override a multimillion dollar security system is basically my response to your question. At what point were the planes compromised, well, just a guess here but, probably about when or shortly after ATC lost communication with the pilots.

What temperature does concrete fuse with Molten Steel at? Well over 1000 Celsius...
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Quote:http://www.ae911truth.org/info/24
Bart Voorsanger, an architect hired to save "relics from the rubble," stated about the multi-ton "meteorite" that it was a "fused element of molten steel and concrete."

The mysterious white vans that were in and out the twin towers at wee hours of the morning for months prior to the attack.
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The Missing Security Tapes For The World Trade Center
August 2, 2011
Susan Lindauer, Contributing Writer
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Late on the night of August 23, 2001, at about 3 a.m. security cameras in the parking garage of the World Trade Center captured the arrival of two or three truck vans.
Visual examination determined the vans were separate and unique from trucks used by janitorial services, including different colors and devoid of markings. More curious, all the janitorial trucks had pulled out of the Towers by about 2:30 a.m—about half an hour before the second set of vans arrived.
According to my high-level State Department source with a top security clearance, who disclosed the unusual nightly activity, no vans matching that description had entered the World Trade Center at such an hour in any of the weeks or months prior to that date. It was a unique event.

Security cameras caught the vans leaving the Towers at approximately 5 a.m—before the first wave of AAA personality types on Wall Street, driving Mercedes and BMWs, arrived to track the markets.
For the next 10 to 12 nights, the same mysterious truck vans arrived at the World Trade Center at the same mysterious hour— after the janitorial crews had left the building and before the most fanatic robber barons on Wall Street showed up for work. The vans appeared at the World Trade Center from approximately August 23, 2001 until September 3 or 4, 2001. After that last night, they never appeared at the Towers again.
The vans were never heard of again, either. The 9/11 Commission was never informed of their surprising presence in the Towers three weeks before the 9/11 attack. Most of the 9/11 Truth Community has no knowledge of this extraordinary nightly activity, either.
For all the public’s ignorance, video from the security cameras could be the most significant missing part of the 9/11 puzzle. This State Department source was convinced the mysterious trucks were used to transport explosives into the building, and that an unidentified orphan team wired the World Trade Center for a controlled demolition in those late night hours. He has stayed quiet to protect his job, his retirement pension and his reputation—knowing that others who spoke up have gotten fired or thrown in prison (myself included).

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Steel Beams of the structure were cut at an angle, at ground level, and were consistent with the placement of cutter charges, obviously melted, the vast majority of them cut into perfect lengths for hauling as per the usual with controlled demolitions. Debunkers like to claim there were cut during the clean up, however there were pictures of these beams that showed rescue operatives with dogs looking for survivors, so the photos had to be taken within just a few days as they were still looking for survivors at that point. Cleanup operations were contracted to CDI (same company contracted to clean up the Murrah Federal Building in OKC), but these are a fire and rescue guys, not clean up crews. That steel wasn't cut with a torch.
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People were being arrested for filming or photographing the debris or, oddly enough... using gieger counters.
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The sign reads... ""No cameras or video equipment permitted!"
"VIOLATORS will be prosecuted and equipment seized!"

An interesting quote, and something to think about considering the South and North Tower both fell at near free-fall speeds through their own intact understructures and neatly into their own footprints, in neatly cut to length pieces mind you, in less than ten seconds...
Quote: "Nothing is holding the building up - No resistance. 110,000 structural failures at the same time."
-Torin Wolf

This is just a scratch in the surface of the questionable events of 9-11. PLEASE INVESTIGATE WTC. All of it. You can't sit there and quote a few engineers and toss this one to the curb.

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The likely explanation is that demolition explosives for most part are incorporated into high rise building as a cost saving measure to deter expenses for future demolitions. The precision of all 3 WTC buildings destruction, makes this highly probable.

Nobody will attest to this as the public furor would undoubtedly have serious consequences, not for the reasoning but for the coverup of the truth.
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The likely explanation is that demolition explosives for most part are incorporated into high rise building as a cost saving measure to deter expenses for future demolitions. The precision of all 3 WTC buildings destruction, makes this highly probable.

Nobody will attest to this as the public furor would undoubtedly have serious consequences, not for the reasoning but for the coverup of the truth.

Access to a building's central support columns is actually required by code in NYC for any possible future demolitions in NYC, at least it was when I was doing the research for this thread.

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After we invaded Afghanistan, we installed a former consultant to UNOCAL as their new president. Check this Creep out...
Quote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamid_Karzai
Hamid Karzai /ˈhæmɪd ˈkɑːrzaɪ/ (Pashto/Dari: حامد کرزی‎, born 24 December 1957) is an Afghan politician who was the leader of Afghanistan from 22 December 2001 to 29 September 2014, originally as an interim leader and then as President for almost ten years, from 7 December 2004 to 2014. He comes from a politically active family; Karzai's father, uncle and grandfather were all active in Afghan politics and government. Karzai and his father before him, Abdul Ahad Karzai, were each head of the Popalzai tribe of the Durrani tribal confederation.

In the 1980s Karzai was active as a fundraiser for the mujahideen who were fighting to expel Soviet Army troops during the Soviet–Afghan War (1979–1989). After the Soviet withdrawal, the Islamic State of Afghanistan was established and then it was replaced in 1996 when the Taliban came to power and established the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. In July 1999 Karzai's father was assassinated and Karzai succeeded him as head of the Popalzai tribe. In October 2001 the US invasion of Afghanistan began and Karzai became a dominant political figure after the removal of the Taliban regime in late 2001.[1] During the December 2001 International Conference on Afghanistan in Germany, Karzai was selected by prominent Afghan political figures to serve a six-month term as Chairman of the Interim Administration.[2]

He was then chosen for a two-year term as Interim President during the 2002 loya jirga (grand assembly) that was held in Kabul, Afghanistan. After the 2004 presidential election, Karzai was declared winner and became President of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan. He won a second five-year term in the 2009 presidential election; this term ended in September 2014.[3]

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I do hope most Americans and others realize that if a high rise building is under attack, disregard the any pre-taped broadcast messages to not evacuate the building. get the hell out of there.
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Unocal connection[edit]

There has been much debate over Karzai's alleged consultant work with Unocal (Union Oil Company of California since acquired by Chevron in 2005). In 2002, when Karzai became the subject of heavy media coverage as one of the front runners to lead Afghanistan, it was reported that he was a former consultant for them.[121][122][123] Spokesmen for both Unocal and Karzai have denied any such relationship, although Unocal could not speak for all companies involved in the consortium.[124] The original claim that Karzai worked for Unocal originates from a 6 December 2001 issue of the French newspaper Le Monde,[124] Barry Lane UNOCAL's manager for public relations states in an interview on the website Emperor's Clothes that, "He was never a consultant, never an employee. We've exhaustively searched through all our records."[125][126] Lane however did say that Zalmay Khalilzad, the former United States Ambassador to the United Nations, was a Unocal consultant in the mid-1990s.[127]

Taliban connection[edit]

In October 2013, Karzai's administration and the Afghanistan Intelligence agency were found to be communicating with the Pakistani Taliban about the shifting of power that may occur when the U.S. Forces withdraw in 2014.[128] Karzai himself was in London at the time of the discovery, to participate in talks with Pakistan and the U.S. on the possible location of Taliban leader Mullah Baradar. At the time, it was unknown if Karzai was directly involved or even knew of such communications.

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Cheney ordered United 93 to be shot down
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Vice President Cheney ordered United 93 to be shot down
Before the passengers forced the crash of United 93, then-vice president Dick Cheney gave the approval for the plane to be shot down before it could reach Washington, the 9/11 report said.

“The Vice President authorized fighter aircraft to engage the aircraft,” the report said.

However, the report added, the Air Force fighters that were airborne at the time probably would not have found and reached United 93 in time. Military “officials have maintained consistently that had the passengers not caused United 93 to crash, the military would have prevented it from reaching Washington, D.C.,” the 9/11 report said. “That conclusion is based on a version of events that we now know is incorrect.”

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