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The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
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Post: #151
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
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Golfing and vacations are irrelevant, what I despise is his treason of:

1 - Helping Iran to bypass US sanctions, trying to get US banks to break law to help him and when that failed, he got UK banks to bypass US sanctions.

2 - weaponizing US gov against conservatives, see EPA, IRS, etc

3 - sending money that belonged in US cofers to ngos ran by Soros to work against American interests.

4 - Using the deep state to go after political opponent and spy on his campaign for political purposes.

Many more, but we can start with those Easily verifiable facts.
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12-06-2018 06:17 PM

 



Post: #152
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:15 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:14 PM)

The plaintiffs are not the government.

How is Trump NOT a traitor, and why are you lying about page 4, 605? What was the governments position when the court asked?

Why are you continuing to call me a liar

I bolded the pertinent words
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Post: #153
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 03:50 PM)
King Doom  Wrote: (12-06-2018 03:39 PM)
Look, as a democrat, I will gladly admit Obama was a good president, but maybe not a great president. He has some failings as president. He screwed some things up.

However, the people who still support Trump are delusional. Every president has done something wrong, no one is a saint. But in their eyes, Trump literally cannot do anything wrong.

These people criticized Obama and his family for the entire duration of his presidency, but when the shoe was on the other foot, every similar shortcoming Trump had was excusable.

Obama took vacations. Every president has, but he was lambasted constantly for "vacationing too much". Never mind the fact George W. Bush took over 500 vacation days, seldom mentioned.

Trump said as President, that he would not have time to vacation, he would be way to busy helping the country.

Well guess what? He has gone on vacations, lots of them in fact. In fact, he spent nearly 30% of his 1st year as president at Trump owned properties.

So now, the excuses fly.

"He is working when he goes to his his properties". OK, fair enough, but every time he decides to leave the WH, it costs me and you money. So far that amount has come to over 80 million dollars.

The whole time Obama was in office, 8 years, the total taxpayers spent on vacations was around 100 million dollars. Trump has not been in office 2 years, and has already spent about 37 million on flights to Mar a Lago. By the time he has 2 years in, that number will be close to half of what the Obama's spent, with trump spending it in 1/4th as short of time.

Each trip to Trump's Mar a Lago costs over 3 million dollars in fuel and secret service protection.

If we put vacations aside, morals come into play as well, modestly specifically.

If you recall, around 2009 Michelle Obama was criticized heavily for wearing a dress with bare arms. How provocative, right?

Well, as many already know, the current 1st lady, Melania posed naked. But again, more silence from the right. I guess this excuses her behavior?

I could go on all day about this, but the point is, somehow these people can find no fault in Trump's work, and any readily apparent mistake he made is somehow given a half-assed excuse by the right.
ten trillion is what that houseing bill cost this country, It wasn’t the banks
it was the democrats

No it was the banks and deregulation

Let the grownups talk
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Post: #154
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:17 PM)
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:15 PM)
The plaintiffs are not the government.

How is Trump NOT a traitor, and why are you lying about page 4, 605? What was the governments position when the court asked?

Why are you continuing to call me a liar

I bolded the pertinent words

Because you are one.

The Court has asked, broadly, about the official status of the President’s tweets. See Stat. Conf. Tr. at 6: 8-10 (asking the parties to “provide insight on . . . the President’s tweets and what they are, how official they are, are they statements of the White House and the President”).

In answer to the Court’s question, the government is treating the President’s statements to which plaintiffs point – whether by tweet, speech or interview – as official statements of the President of the United States.

The key point, however, is that, regardless of the medium, none of thosestatements matches the information plaintiff isseeking. Accordingly, the statements cannot constitute a waiver of the Glomar responses that ODNI, the CIA, NSA, and the FBI have provided to Items 2 and 3 of plaintiffs’ request

That was the FOIA case you dipshit.

How is Trump NOT a Traitor 605, and why are you lying about page 4?

I already know why. The president has officially declared an enemy. Treason is back on the menu.

Answer, please. How is Trump NOT a traitor, and why are you lying about page 4?

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Post: #155
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:15 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:14 PM)

The plaintiffs are not the government.

How is Trump NOT a traitor, and why are you lying about page 4, 605? What was the governments position when the court asked?

No where in that case does it say that ALL statements by Trump in any medium are treated that way

The case argument was specific to that case

How is that a lie?
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Post: #156
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
Typical Democrat, so smart he can't use spell check to spell delusion or sickeningly properly. Perhaps that is because democrats live in a sickening delusion.

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Post: #157
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
What’s wrong can’t fix spelling in tities?
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Post: #158
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:20 PM)
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:15 PM)
The plaintiffs are not the government.

How is Trump NOT a traitor, and why are you lying about page 4, 605? What was the governments position when the court asked?

No where in that case does it say that ALL statements by Trump in any medium are treated that way

The case argument was specific to that case

How is that a lie?

The government itself left no ambiguity for us.

In answer to the Court’s question, the government is treating the President’s statements to which plaintiffs point – whether by tweet, speech or interviewas official statements of the President of the United States.

Page 4.

How is Trump NOT a traitor 605, and why are you lying about page 4?




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Post: #159
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
Natura Naturans  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:21 PM)
Typical Democrat, so smart he can't use spell check to spell delusion properly. Perhaps that is because democrats live in delusion.

That’s all u got? You’re sad dude
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RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:19 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:17 PM)
Why are you continuing to call me a liar

I bolded the pertinent words

Because you are one.

The Court has asked, broadly, about the official status of the President’s tweets. See Stat. Conf. Tr. at 6: 8-10 (asking the parties to “provide insight on . . . the President’s tweets and what they are, how official they are, are they statements of the White House and the President”).

In answer to the Court’s question, the government is treating the President’s statements to which plaintiffs point – whether by tweet, speech or interview – as official statements of the President of the United States.

The key point, however, is that, regardless of the medium, none of thosestatements matches the information plaintiff isseeking. Accordingly, the statements cannot constitute a waiver of the Glomar responses that ODNI, the CIA, NSA, and the FBI have provided to Items 2 and 3 of plaintiffs’ request

That was the FOIA case you dipshit.

How is Trump NOT a Traitor 605, and why are you lying about page 4?

No I am not... read...learn comprehension.

Show me where anything in that case says all words spoken by Trump are official statements

It doesn't say that and had it been decided it would be clearly stated as such.

The case says the statements used in this case.

It is contextual

They could very well have stated that every statement by the president is official but it doesn't say that
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RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
Natura Naturans  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:21 PM)
Typical Democrat, so smart he can't use spell check to spell delusion or sickeningly properly. Perhaps that is because democrats live in a sickening delusion.

Perhaps you can answer my question.

How is Trump, NOT a traitor?

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Post: #162
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:22 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:20 PM)
No where in that case does it say that ALL statements by Trump in any medium are treated that way

The case argument was specific to that case

How is that a lie?

The government itself left no ambiguity for us.

In answer to the Court’s question, the government is treating the President’s statements to which plaintiffs point – whether by tweet, speech or interviewas official statements of the President of the United States.

Page 4.

How is Trump NOT a traitor 605, and why are you lying about page 4?




Are you triggered?

Which part of the qualifier in that argument are you struggling with?
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12-06-2018 06:26 PM

 



Post: #163
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:25 PM)
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:22 PM)
The government itself left no ambiguity for us.

In answer to the Court’s question, the government is treating the President’s statements to which plaintiffs point – whether by tweet, speech or interviewas official statements of the President of the United States.

Page 4.

How is Trump NOT a traitor 605, and why are you lying about page 4?




Are you triggered?

Which part of the qualifier in that argument are you struggling with?

Hey...I double down again...lol

Are there specifiers in that bolded text or are there not?
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Post: #164
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:24 PM)
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:19 PM)
Because you are one.

The Court has asked, broadly, about the official status of the President’s tweets. See Stat. Conf. Tr. at 6: 8-10 (asking the parties to “provide insight on . . . the President’s tweets and what they are, how official they are, are they statements of the White House and the President”).

In answer to the Court’s question, the government is treating the President’s statements to which plaintiffs point – whether by tweet, speech or interview – as official statements of the President of the United States.

The key point, however, is that, regardless of the medium, none of thosestatements matches the information plaintiff isseeking. Accordingly, the statements cannot constitute a waiver of the Glomar responses that ODNI, the CIA, NSA, and the FBI have provided to Items 2 and 3 of plaintiffs’ request

That was the FOIA case you dipshit.

How is Trump NOT a Traitor 605, and why are you lying about page 4?

No I am not... read...learn comprehension.

Show me where anything in that case says all words spoken by Trump are official statements

It doesn't say that and had it been decided it would be clearly stated as such.

The case says the statements used in this case.

It is contextual

They could very well have stated that every statement by the president is official but it doesn't say that

Lies.

I already showed you the governments position. Whether by tweet, speech or interview, it's an official statement.

How is Trump NOT a Traitor, 605, and why are you lying about Page 4?

Example of Official Statement by the white house.

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Post: #165
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:26 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 06:25 PM)
Are you triggered?

Which part of the qualifier in that argument are you struggling with?

Hey...I double down again...lol

Are there specifiers in that bolded text or are there not?

What is the governments position on tweets, statements and speeches?

How is Trump not a Traitor 605, and why are you lying about Page 4?

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