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The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
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RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
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And if not impeached it rules out his re election in 2020

Ironically, if I was [REDACTED] investigation, the coordination implying a quid for items offered during the election and Flynn fulfilling it, I'd be shitting my pants right now.

Flynn told them everything.

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Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 07:42 PM)
Blah blah blah. Read the legal definitions linked and get back to me.

How was that action not weakening the United States as defined via legal definitions as they all knew?

QED is on you now.

How is trump NOT a traitor?

Trump has power as president to revoke security clearance.

To have a security clearance - you have to have a demonstrated need and it has to serve a governmental purpose.

Please identify a reason for these ex-officials to have a high level security clearance.

That also included premier people, for Russian expertise.

How did firing them, help the United States security at a time when the intelligence agencies have pointed to Russian interference, including Trump's own administration?

How would that NOT be a need for governmental purpose? Hint: It was political retribution and attempting to delay an investigation, also a crime.

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Post: #273
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
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Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 07:46 PM)
189. The one I directly linked.

So the one that isnt me.
The bolded one.
Something I don't do.

There was no reason for you to be such an unhelpful ass.
You're wrong.
I didn't say that.
Pretty sure you knew that from the start.

How do I know with AC's?

So, care to answer my question now that that has been resolved?

How is Trump NOT a traitor?

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Post: #274
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 07:46 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 07:44 PM)
Be auee you habent provided any evidence.
Spamming "QED" and childishly repeating the same accusation over and over is the same sort of bullshit you are literally trying to do to me.

No specific criminal actions.
None.

QED below.

http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-87170-p...pid1560015

How is Trump NOT a Traitor?

Spam.
Name a specific criminal act you can link to trump.
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Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 07:46 PM)
QED below.

http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-87170-p...pid1560015

How is Trump NOT a Traitor?

Spam.
Name a specific criminal act you can link to trump.

Treason. Title 18 2381.

As defined by the Constitution and legal definitions down to the words defined themselves, with examples, on or about page 3.

How is Trump NOT a traitor?

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Post: #276
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 07:47 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 07:45 PM)
And all squares are rectangles...

But not all coordination is conspiracy.
facepalm

Then why lie about the 'coordination'? By numerous people in the investigation?

Your position depends on it being 100% innocent and innocuous. I reject this premise.

How is Trump not a traitor?


What coordination?
What conspiracy?
What fraud?

Specific criminal act.
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Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 07:47 PM)
Then why lie about the 'coordination'? By numerous people in the investigation?

Your position depends on it being 100% innocent and innocuous. I reject this premise.

How is Trump not a traitor?


What coordination?
What conspiracy?
What fraud?

Specific criminal act.

Specific Criminal Act?

Treason. As defined on page 3. QED.

How is Trump NOT a traitor?

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Post: #278
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 07:55 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 07:50 PM)
And if not impeached it rules out his re election in 2020

Ironically, if I was [REDACTED] investigation, the coordination implying a quid for items offered during the election and Flynn fulfilling it, I'd be shitting my pants right now.

Flynn told them everything.

Hey im the AC you replied to

What did Flynn do again? He’s been the quietest of all the associates it looks like he was the one to be watching the whole time
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Post: #279
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 07:57 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 07:55 PM)
So the one that isnt me.
The bolded one.
Something I don't do.

There was no reason for you to be such an unhelpful ass.
You're wrong.
I didn't say that.
Pretty sure you knew that from the start.

How do I know with AC's?

So, care to answer my question now that that has been resolved?

How is Trump NOT a traitor?

In this instance the fact one of us bolds their own words and one does not.
The ID #.

Or you could f*cking ask like a god damned grown up, if you didn't know.

Because you haven't provided any evidence he is.
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RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 08:01 PM)
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 07:55 PM)
Ironically, if I was [REDACTED] investigation, the coordination implying a quid for items offered during the election and Flynn fulfilling it, I'd be shitting my pants right now.

Flynn told them everything.

Hey im the AC you replied to

What did Flynn do again? He’s been the quietest of all the associates it looks like he was the one to be watching the whole time

He's involved in the planned kidnapping of a Turkish person in exile, contacting Russia during the transition about Obama's sanctions, inferring the reply to the quid for helping, and also contact of Russia to block a UN resolution against Israel using Russia's veto against a sitting president (Sedition) but directed to do so by a very senior official.

There's also a completely redacted investigation.

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RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 08:02 PM)
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 07:57 PM)
How do I know with AC's?

So, care to answer my question now that that has been resolved?

How is Trump NOT a traitor?

In this instance the fact one of us bolds their own words and one does not.
The ID #.

Or you could f*cking ask like a god damned grown up, if you didn't know.

Because you haven't provided any evidence he is.

Reminder:

In the United States Constitution, Article III, Section 3, treason is defined and codified as the only crime itself within the US Constitution.

Treason [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [29] against the United States [6], shall consist only in levying war against them [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15], or in adhering to their enemies [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [30], giving them aid and comfort [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28]. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

1 https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=2153
2 https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1426
3 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat...story.html
4 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/poli...b4723ef811
5 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-...di-n938526
6 https://thelawdictionary.org/united-states/
7 https://thelawdictionary.org/levying-war/
8 https://thelawdictionary.org/object-v/
9 https://www.dictionary.com/browse/treasonable
10 https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download
11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znndE1TR2UY
12 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_people
13 http://time.com/4898644/trump-campaign-a...e-protest/
14 https://definitions.uslegal.com/t/take-care-clause/
15 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fou...nstitution
16 https://definitions.uslegal.com/e/enemy-...ed-states/
17 https://thelawdictionary.org/hostility/
18 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/demo...n-warfare/
19 https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/russians...probe.html
20 https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articl...s-in-syria
21 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham
22 https://definitions.uslegal.com/a/aid-and-comfort/
23 https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017...appen.html
24 https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watc...2765251853
25 https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/11/politics/...index.html
26 http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/...convenient
27 https://www.jpost.com/Us-Elections/Donal...ion-475056
28 https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/15/politics/...index.html
29 https://psmag.com/news/a-guide-to-treason-2-0
30 https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201...ements-of/

How is Trump NOT a Traitor? You have asked for the specific criminal act.

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Post: #282
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 08:00 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 08:00 PM)
What coordination?
What conspiracy?
What fraud?

Specific criminal act.

Specific Criminal Act?

Treason. As defined on page 3. QED.

How is Trump NOT a traitor?

Treason is the charge.
What action did trump do that qualifies as treason?

If I call you a thief "strong arm burglary" isnt a specifc act.
"You took Emma Watsons purse on 5th avenue on the evening of january 15th 2017."
Thats a specific act.

Provide a specifc action.
A criminal action.
A treasonous action.
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Post: #283
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 07:57 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 07:54 PM)
Trump has power as president to revoke security clearance.

To have a security clearance - you have to have a demonstrated need and it has to serve a governmental purpose.

Please identify a reason for these ex-officials to have a high level security clearance.

That also included premier people, for Russian expertise.

How did firing them, help the United States security at a time when the intelligence agencies have pointed to Russian interference, including Trump's own administration?

How would that NOT be a need for governmental purpose? Hint: It was political retribution and attempting to delay an investigation, also a crime.

Please list these "premier" people that you claim lost clearances.

You do know that there are people IN government that are doing the jobs of the ex-officials.

Your insane argument is that somebody who is fired or has quit should continue to have access to company premises and systems. Generally when someone is fired they are duck-walked off the property and all their access is terminated.



Your argument is so stupid it doesn't deserve refutation.
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Post: #284
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 08:04 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 08:02 PM)
In this instance the fact one of us bolds their own words and one does not.
The ID #.

Or you could f*cking ask like a god damned grown up, if you didn't know.

Because you haven't provided any evidence he is.

Reminder:

In the United States Constitution, Article III, Section 3, treason is defined and codified as the only crime itself within the US Constitution.

Treason [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [29] against the United States [6], shall consist only in levying war against them [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15], or in adhering to their enemies [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [30], giving them aid and comfort [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28]. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

1 https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=2153
2 https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1426
3 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat...story.html
4 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/poli...b4723ef811
5 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-...di-n938526
6 https://thelawdictionary.org/united-states/
7 https://thelawdictionary.org/levying-war/
8 https://thelawdictionary.org/object-v/
9 https://www.dictionary.com/browse/treasonable
10 https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download
11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znndE1TR2UY
12 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_people
13 http://time.com/4898644/trump-campaign-a...e-protest/
14 https://definitions.uslegal.com/t/take-care-clause/
15 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fou...nstitution
16 https://definitions.uslegal.com/e/enemy-...ed-states/
17 https://thelawdictionary.org/hostility/
18 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/demo...n-warfare/
19 https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/russians...probe.html
20 https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articl...s-in-syria
21 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham
22 https://definitions.uslegal.com/a/aid-and-comfort/
23 https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017...appen.html
24 https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watc...2765251853
25 https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/11/politics/...index.html
26 http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/...convenient
27 https://www.jpost.com/Us-Elections/Donal...ion-475056
28 https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/15/politics/...index.html
29 https://psmag.com/news/a-guide-to-treason-2-0
30 https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201...ements-of/

How is Trump NOT a Traitor? You have asked for the specific criminal act.

And you refuse to provide one.
Spam all the sh*t you want.
Pretty obvious you have exactly as much evidence against Trump as you had against me.
None.
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Post: #285
RE: The right wing delussions are sickenly scary.
Apostle of Reality  Wrote: (12-06-2018 08:03 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 08:01 PM)
Hey im the AC you replied to

What did Flynn do again? He’s been the quietest of all the associates it looks like he was the one to be watching the whole time

He's involved in the planned kidnapping of a Turkish person in exile, contacting Russia during the transition about Obama's sanctions, inferring the reply to the quid for helping, and also contact of Russia to block a UN resolution against Israel using Russia's veto against a sitting president (Sedition) but directed to do so by a very senior official.

There's also a completely redacted investigation.

Me again

Just when we read in the disclosure to court “ provided very substantial information and assistance”. That made me perk up
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