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won't thermite easily cut steel slat barrier ?
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steel slat barrier sounds reasonable ... cutting thru with saw or torch would take awhile

seems that thermite might cut those slats quickly and easily
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RE: won't thermite easily cut steel slat barrier ?
How do you propose holding it against the vertical steel?
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-11-2019 12:55 AM)
How do you propose holding it against the vertical steel?

brick or concrete I guess in contact with the thermite , all held against the steel with a clamp, and some kind of hole or holes to allow thermite to be ignited

once its been going for ... 10 seconds ? hit it with a sledge hammer
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well there are steel barriers already in use and this hasn't been a problem so far
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RE: won't thermite easily cut steel slat barrier ?
Just tunnel under said steel barrier.

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ιм conғυѕed ◕‿◕  Wrote: (01-11-2019 01:01 AM)
Just tunnel under said steel barrier.

thats ALWAYS possible unless its sunk into granite or something

but if its sunk 10 feet deep ... its not easy to dig a 10 foot deep tunnel

I'm more concerned with sawing thru the bars , or thermite ... thats something that could probably be done with power equipment, battery powered, in less than half an hour

so far as sawing, if they had some strands of really hard steel, like a kryptonite lock, that might make it harder

the best solution would be a solid cement wall, many feet thick, with narrow gullies at the bottom spaced to allow water to flow, and cameras to address the problem of not being able to see thru it ... agents could use the mounted cameras to see whats going on
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from link above:

"The steel bollard design is internally reinforced with materials that require time and multiple industrial tools to breach, thereby providing U.S. Border Patrol agents additional response time to affect a successful law enforcement resolution. In the event that one of the steel bollards becomes damaged, it is quick and cost-effective to repair.

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seems reasonable

maybe they can install sensors which will detect vibrations of an breach attempt

vibrations should conduct long distances along the steel so you might need only a sensor every 1000 feet ... small solar panel to keep it charged and some kind of cellular or sat phone communication or maybe some communications wiring running along the fencing
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Yup and a machine gun will stop thermite.
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RE: won't thermite easily cut steel slat barrier ?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-11-2019 12:54 AM)
steel slat barrier sounds reasonable ... cutting thru with saw or torch would take awhile

seems that thermite might cut those slats quickly and easily

yes if border security allows it

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RE: won't thermite easily cut steel slat barrier ?
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ιм conғυѕed ◕‿◕  Wrote: (01-11-2019 01:01 AM)
Just tunnel under said steel barrier.

thats ALWAYS possible unless its sunk into granite or something

but if its sunk 10 feet deep ... its not easy to dig a 10 foot deep tunnel

I'm more concerned with sawing thru the bars , or thermite ... thats something that could probably be done with power equipment, battery powered, in less than half an hour

so far as sawing, if they had some strands of really hard steel, like a kryptonite lock, that might make it harder

the best solution would be a solid cement wall, many feet thick, with narrow gullies at the bottom spaced to allow water to flow, and cameras to address the problem of not being able to see thru it ... agents could use the mounted cameras to see whats going on

So the wall would cost even more to maintain with technology?

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Balloons and lawn-chairs.

I might have to set up a little balloon and lawn-chair business.
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tamarack  Wrote: (01-11-2019 01:18 AM)
Balloons and lawn-chairs.

I might have to set up a little balloon and lawn-chair business.

I never thought about that?


I'm sure they have hot air balloons in Mexico.

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Something i was wondering.. it's not science fiction but it may be not easily doable even today.

Micro-wires run through the whole wall connected to some kind of system that can report any disruptions, aka breaks in the wall ? maybe even the exact area, in real time

but that sounds expensive. and possibly not practical. youd probably need a node every hundred feet or so for it to work as i describe.
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tamarack  Wrote: (01-11-2019 01:18 AM)
Balloons and lawn-chairs.

I might have to set up a little balloon and lawn-chair business.

cannon and parachute
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