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American Psychosis: Are you part of the problem?
Mister C
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American Psychosis: Are you part of the problem?
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion...79987.html
"Has America become a nation of psychotics? You would certainly think so, based on the explosion in the use of antipsychotic medications. In 2008, with over $14 billion in sales, antipsychotics became the single top-selling therapeutic class of prescription drugs in the United States, surpassing drugs used to treat high cholesterol and acid reflux.

Once upon a time, antipsychotics were reserved for a relatively small number of patients with hard-core psychiatric diagnoses - primarily schizophrenia and bipolar disorder - to treat such symptoms as delusions, hallucinations, or formal thought disorder. Today, it seems, everyone is taking antipsychotics."



http://beyondmeds.com/2012/01/06/americanpsychosis/
"Imagine that a virus suddenly appears in our society that makes people sleep 12–14 hours a day. Those infected with it move about somewhat slowly and seem emotionally disengaged..."



http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/90/hed...hosis.html
"The United States, locked in the kind of twilight disconnect that grips dying empires, is a country entranced by illusions. It spends its emotional and intellectual energy on the trivial and the absurd."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMSpEfkvpZA
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Frigg Stuyvesant
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05-06-2012 10:57 PM

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RE: American Psychosis: Are you part of the problem?
PHARMAGORIA

Evil concoctions to stifle your brain or brian!

Cui Bono?
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Gibbie
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RE: American Psychosis: Are you part of the problem?
Mister C  Wrote: (05-06-2012 10:55 PM)
"Has America become a nation of psychotics? You would certainly think so, based on the explosion in the use of antipsychotic medications. In 2008, with over $14 billion in sales, antipsychotics became the single top-selling therapeutic class of prescription drugs in the United States, surpassing drugs used to treat high cholesterol and acid reflux.

This doesn't tell us the whole story. The cost of antipsychotic medicine is much higher and more heavily subsidized than acid reflux or cholesterol medicines. I know cause I take them. I can't quit my job and do freelance because I can't afford the medicine without aid or insurance.

Challenge your programming.
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RE: American Psychosis: Are you part of the problem?
Gibbie  Wrote: (05-06-2012 11:07 PM)
Mister C  Wrote: (05-06-2012 10:55 PM)
"Has America become a nation of psychotics? You would certainly think so, based on the explosion in the use of antipsychotic medications. In 2008, with over $14 billion in sales, antipsychotics became the single top-selling therapeutic class of prescription drugs in the United States, surpassing drugs used to treat high cholesterol and acid reflux.

This doesn't tell us the whole story. The cost of antipsychotic medicine is much higher and more heavily subsidized than acid reflux or cholesterol medicines. I know cause I take them. I can't quit my job and do freelance because I can't afford the medicine without aid or insurance.

Insurance is an industry that makes this all possible.
Weed doesn't help, Gibby?
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Gibbie
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RE: American Psychosis: Are you part of the problem?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-06-2012 11:09 PM)
Gibbie  Wrote: (05-06-2012 11:07 PM)
Mister C  Wrote: (05-06-2012 10:55 PM)
"Has America become a nation of psychotics? You would certainly think so, based on the explosion in the use of antipsychotic medications. In 2008, with over $14 billion in sales, antipsychotics became the single top-selling therapeutic class of prescription drugs in the United States, surpassing drugs used to treat high cholesterol and acid reflux.

This doesn't tell us the whole story. The cost of antipsychotic medicine is much higher and more heavily subsidized than acid reflux or cholesterol medicines. I know cause I take them. I can't quit my job and do freelance because I can't afford the medicine without aid or insurance.

Insurance is an industry that makes this all possible.
Weed doesn't help, Gibby?
Well I used to smoke weed and drink beer every day.. then I had real psychotic episode which landed me in jail and hospital for 3 weeks.

So yea it didn't help for me anyway.

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Louie1257
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05-06-2012 11:16 PM

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RE: American Psychosis: Are you part of the problem?
Is there anybody here that is not tranked up on something?

I just drink but that is because my father is Irish and I am "genetically modified" that way by the Annunaki (LOL)

"Have a bit of wine for the aid of your digestion" sayeth the Lord

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Kentucky Fried Genocide
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RE: American Psychosis: Are you part of the problem?
I barely take aspirin....I drink beer, maybe 6 pack twice a week.

As for pills...I don't take any these days, or smoke bud anymore. Been years, 8-9 I think.

I used to do anything I could get my grubby f*cking hands on though.

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doubleplusgood
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05-06-2012 11:19 PM

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225,000 people applied for social security disability in April 2012 alone. According to SSA documents, 35% of people who apply for, and the vast majority of whom are awarded disability, fall into the diagnostic criteria of mental illness.

Why?

Could it be that the very drugs prescribed for mental illness are actually causing long term mental disability? Depression, psychosis, anxiety were all once transient states, lasting no more than 6-12 months, worst case scenario. They were treated at home in most cases, or with a brief stint in an institutional setting in more severe cases. People recovered, went on to live their lives, and in most cases never had another episode of mental illness.

But now, with the advent of these psychiatric drugs which alter brain neurochemistry (sometimes permanently), what was once a transient state of mental illness has become a life long mental health disability.

The drugs they prescribe worsen and intensify the symptoms they purport to treat. Take an antidepressant, struggle with depression forever.

The whole world is backwards and upside down.
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Gibbie
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RE: American Psychosis: Are you part of the problem?
Betty F. Crocker  Wrote: (05-06-2012 11:19 PM)
225,000 people applied for social security disability in April 2012 alone. According to SSA documents, 35% of people who apply for, and the vast majority of whom are awarded disability, fall into the diagnostic criteria of mental illness.

Why?

Could it be that the very drugs prescribed for mental illness are actually causing long term mental disability? Depression, psychosis, anxiety were all once transient states, lasting no more than 6-12 months, worst case scenario. They were treated at home in most cases, or with a brief stint in an institutional setting in more severe cases. People recovered, went on to live their lives, and in most cases never had another episode of mental illness.

But now, with the advent of these psychiatric drugs which alter brain neurochemistry (sometimes permanently), what was once a transient state of mental illness has become a life long mental health disability.

The drugs they prescribe worsen and intensify the symptoms they purport to treat. Take an antidepressant, struggle with depression forever.

The whole world is backwards and upside down.

I have no doubt that there are a lot of people gaming the system to get ssi using mental illness as the way to do it. It is easier and less painful than cutting your arm off.

That said schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are real illnesses and if they can be treated with or with out drugs the patient's life and all those around him will greatly benefit. Been there done it. My life is better now than it has ever been for the last 6 years.

Challenge your programming.
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Disturbed nli
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RE: American Psychosis: Are you part of the problem?
Betty F. Crocker  Wrote: (05-06-2012 11:19 PM)
225,000 people applied for social security disability in April 2012 alone. According to SSA documents, 35% of people who apply for, and the vast majority of whom are awarded disability, fall into the diagnostic criteria of mental illness.

Why?

chuckle

Mental Illness = No Right To Own Firearms

Of course the doctors will prescribe you with what you need for your "illness", an illness they classified as an illness

Smfjsraq
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doubleplusgood
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05-06-2012 11:30 PM

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RE: American Psychosis: Are you part of the problem?
Gibbie  Wrote: (05-06-2012 11:23 PM)
Betty F. Crocker  Wrote: (05-06-2012 11:19 PM)
225,000 people applied for social security disability in April 2012 alone. According to SSA documents, 35% of people who apply for, and the vast majority of whom are awarded disability, fall into the diagnostic criteria of mental illness.

Why?

Could it be that the very drugs prescribed for mental illness are actually causing long term mental disability? Depression, psychosis, anxiety were all once transient states, lasting no more than 6-12 months, worst case scenario. They were treated at home in most cases, or with a brief stint in an institutional setting in more severe cases. People recovered, went on to live their lives, and in most cases never had another episode of mental illness.

But now, with the advent of these psychiatric drugs which alter brain neurochemistry (sometimes permanently), what was once a transient state of mental illness has become a life long mental health disability.

The drugs they prescribe worsen and intensify the symptoms they purport to treat. Take an antidepressant, struggle with depression forever.

The whole world is backwards and upside down.

I have no doubt that there are a lot of people gaming the system to get ssi using mental illness as the way to do it. It is easier and less painful than cutting your arm off.

That said schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are real illnesses and if they can be treated with or with out drugs the patient's life and all those around him will greatly benefit. Been there done it. My life is better now than it has ever been for the last 6 years.

I know that there are some people for whom the drugs work, and I would not criticize or advocate for denying anyone any medication that they feel is beneficial. If what you're doing is working for you, that's fantastic and I'm happy for you (honestly).

I read something recently that gave me pause though. Here it is, and my question after reading it is : How many patients are accurately informed of the risks, the possible 15-25 year decrease in life span?


Full Disclosure Needed About Psychiatric Drugs That Shorten Life

Research Shows Some Psychiatric Drugs Decrease Lifespan
Published on September 4, 2011 by Paula J. Caplan, Ph.D. in Science Isn't Golden

Those in emotional pain long for that pain to stop, but that longing makes them more susceptible to pitches for products that allegedly will help but can do great harm. People who have been labeled seriously mentally ill are dying 15 to 25 years earlier than normal [1], and it is clear that this is largely because of the effects of the drugs they are given. [2] It's alarming enough when makers of deodorant, for instance, conceal the risks attendant on using their product; how much more reprehensible it is when marketers play not on the fear of having body odor but on the intense suffering of those who are likely to be advised to take powerful psychiatric drugs.

Before proceeding, it is essential to state that I believe that suffering people have the right to try anything to ease their pain, as long as two criteria are met - and they almost never are. Those criteria are:
(1)The person recommending a treatment must learn about and disclose to the patient everything that is known about the potential benefits and potential kinds of harm that that treatment carries.
(2)The person recommending a treatment must learn about and inform the patient about the whole array of things that have been helpful to those who have suffered in similar ways (not just the traditional, medicalized approaches but all approaches).

(less than 50%, continued at link)
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/scie...orten-life
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Gibbie
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RE: American Psychosis: Are you part of the problem?
Betty F. Crocker  Wrote: (05-06-2012 11:30 PM)
Gibbie  Wrote: (05-06-2012 11:23 PM)
Betty F. Crocker  Wrote: (05-06-2012 11:19 PM)
225,000 people applied for social security disability in April 2012 alone. According to SSA documents, 35% of people who apply for, and the vast majority of whom are awarded disability, fall into the diagnostic criteria of mental illness.

Why?

Could it be that the very drugs prescribed for mental illness are actually causing long term mental disability? Depression, psychosis, anxiety were all once transient states, lasting no more than 6-12 months, worst case scenario. They were treated at home in most cases, or with a brief stint in an institutional setting in more severe cases. People recovered, went on to live their lives, and in most cases never had another episode of mental illness.

But now, with the advent of these psychiatric drugs which alter brain neurochemistry (sometimes permanently), what was once a transient state of mental illness has become a life long mental health disability.

The drugs they prescribe worsen and intensify the symptoms they purport to treat. Take an antidepressant, struggle with depression forever.

The whole world is backwards and upside down.

I have no doubt that there are a lot of people gaming the system to get ssi using mental illness as the way to do it. It is easier and less painful than cutting your arm off.

That said schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are real illnesses and if they can be treated with or with out drugs the patient's life and all those around him will greatly benefit. Been there done it. My life is better now than it has ever been for the last 6 years.

I know that there are some people for whom the drugs work, and I would not criticize or advocate for denying anyone any medication that they feel is beneficial. If what you're doing is working for you, that's fantastic and I'm happy for you (honestly).

I read something recently that gave me pause though. Here it is, and my question after reading it is : How many patients are accurately informed of the risks, the possible 15-25 year decrease in life span?


Full Disclosure Needed About Psychiatric Drugs That Shorten Life

Research Shows Some Psychiatric Drugs Decrease Lifespan
Published on September 4, 2011 by Paula J. Caplan, Ph.D. in Science Isn't Golden

Those in emotional pain long for that pain to stop, but that longing makes them more susceptible to pitches for products that allegedly will help but can do great harm. People who have been labeled seriously mentally ill are dying 15 to 25 years earlier than normal [1], and it is clear that this is largely because of the effects of the drugs they are given. [2] It's alarming enough when makers of deodorant, for instance, conceal the risks attendant on using their product; how much more reprehensible it is when marketers play not on the fear of having body odor but on the intense suffering of those who are likely to be advised to take powerful psychiatric drugs.

Before proceeding, it is essential to state that I believe that suffering people have the right to try anything to ease their pain, as long as two criteria are met - and they almost never are. Those criteria are:
(1)The person recommending a treatment must learn about and disclose to the patient everything that is known about the potential benefits and potential kinds of harm that that treatment carries.
(2)The person recommending a treatment must learn about and inform the patient about the whole array of things that have been helpful to those who have suffered in similar ways (not just the traditional, medicalized approaches but all approaches).

(less than 50%, continued at link)
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/scie...orten-life

I'm not surprised if this is indeed true. Depakote is especially harsh on the liver and I take a lot of it. Males on my dad's side of the family don't live long. Dad lived to 67, his dad, 59, granddad (never met him), 59, great grand dad, 59. None of these people had diagnosed mental disorders.

I don't expect to live longer than 59. Not with my triglycerides above 2000.....

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rentgirl
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RE: American Psychosis: Are you part of the problem?
well, we've had about 40 years of subliminal programming going into our subconscious through everything from radio to television

who's to say that these things don't lie dormant until they can spring out and do us the most damage

no one ever tampered with our subconscious like people have toyed with it over the last few decades

something is in there... and it's ticking
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Mister C
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RE: American Psychosis: Are you part of the problem?
Gibbie  Wrote: (05-06-2012 11:23 PM)
I have no doubt that there are a lot of people gaming the system to get ssi using mental illness as the way to do it. It is easier and less painful than cutting your arm off.

That said schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are real illnesses and if they can be treated with or with out drugs the patient's life and all those around him will greatly benefit. Been there done it. My life is better now than it has ever been for the last 6 years.

These people are not gaming the system for ssri's. They are looking for solutions to their depression, and have been told by professionals that these little magic pills will make them feel better. Then the chemistry takes over.

That said, as far back as 1992 the WHO reported long-term success rates for un-medicated schizophrenic patients in the developing world were far better than those of their medicated Western counterparts.

In fact, studies show that antipsychotics shrink your frontal cortex, much like crystal meth. Of note, the Institute of Mental Health concluded in 2009 that the leading factor in developing bipolarity is whether or not you've been prescribed a psychotic drug in your medical history.

So, Gibbie, you ARE part of the problem. How do you feel?
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