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Every vote counts! Who are you voting for?
The Evil AC
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RE: Every vote counts! Who are you voting for?
Don  Wrote: (04-11-2012 04:10 AM)
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Jptdknpa ftw
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Currahee
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Post: #17
RE: Every vote counts! Who are you voting for?
Bump

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Post: #18
RE: Every vote counts! Who are you voting for?
Currahee  Wrote: (04-10-2012 08:12 PM)
Rock the vote!

Every vote counts!

Let your voice be heard!




There's gonna be an election? A real election? Who knew? :-)

Crap, you know they would not let us vote if we could make a difference. I wonder if the "occupy" movement would consider storming and occupy the White House? Peacefully ..... of course. It's probably the only way we could get a legitimate non-NWO scumbag in the office.
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Post: #19
RE: Every vote counts! Who are you voting for?
Poll really sux. You work for the MSM?
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04-11-2012 05:59 PM

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Post: #20
RE: Every vote counts! Who are you voting for?
Romney
Obama
Throw vote away
Abstain

Ron Paul or no one at all.

If that's a throw away vote then so be it. At least I won't be alone. Seriously though, Romney and Obama have the same owner and sitting back and letting others decide just isn't in my skill set at this time so even if I have to write in a vote then that's what I'll do.

Mitakuye Oyasin We are all related. Screw that, your all disowned. The Idiocracy has won.

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Post: #21
RE: Every vote counts! Who are you voting for?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 05:52 PM)
Poll really sux. You work for the MSM?

Why would you think that? Because there are only two choices? That was kind of the point.

Angry Red Man  Wrote: (04-11-2012 05:59 PM)
Romney
Obama
Throw vote away
Abstain

Ron Paul or no one at all.

If that's a throw away vote then so be it. At least I won't be alone. Seriously though, Romney and Obama have the same owner and sitting back and letting others decide just isn't in my skill set at this time so even if I have to write in a vote then that's what I'll do.

Is it a throw away vote? I think it is, I think most people don't realize how many people vote straight ticket for their party. Doesn't matter who the candidates are, democrats vote democrat, republicans vote republican.

“You don’t want to become so open-minded that the wind can whistle between your ears.” ~Terence McKenna
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Post: #22
RE: Every vote counts! Who are you voting for?
abstain has dropped out!
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Post: #23
RE: Every vote counts! Who are you voting for?
Currahee  Wrote: (04-11-2012 06:18 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 05:52 PM)
Poll really sux. You work for the MSM?

Why would you think that? Because there are only two choices? That was kind of the point.

Angry Red Man  Wrote: (04-11-2012 05:59 PM)
Romney
Obama
Throw vote away
Abstain

Ron Paul or no one at all.

If that's a throw away vote then so be it. At least I won't be alone. Seriously though, Romney and Obama have the same owner and sitting back and letting others decide just isn't in my skill set at this time so even if I have to write in a vote then that's what I'll do.

Is it a throw away vote? I think it is, I think most people don't realize how many people vote straight ticket for their party. Doesn't matter who the candidates are, democrats vote democrat, republicans vote republican.

It seems that no one takes the Independent voters seriously and many of the mainline Republican and Democratic voters are disenfranchised this go around. Sure many R and D vote straight party line but a significant minority of those parties are no longer quite so blind and getting fed up with the non choices and back room deals going on in their own parties. I've chatted a bit with some hard core D people who are very upset about what they perceive as being abandoned by their party and the same with some buddies that are hard core R.

I seriously think that the two party system is about to crash and burn. And it's showing up in polls and opinion pieces everywhere but in the mainstream media where it's all status quo as usual.

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Post: #24
RE: Every vote counts! Who are you voting for?
George Wallace
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OTOC
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04-11-2012 07:21 PM

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Post: #25
RE: Every vote counts! Who are you voting for?
If you vote you agree with the system in place.

If you vote you give up your right to complain about the system or the way things are.

If you vote you are responsible for any changes based from politics.

If you abstain you have all the right to complain about anything to do with the way things are and the general political and social situation.

Just remember your vote basically says "I agree". So if your candidate doesn't make it in you have agreed that the 'winner' of the votes should be in charge and as such you have agreed to everything that 'winner' does to your country.

Do yourself a favour, don't vote, don't agree.

And furthermore remember something else, Your vote doesn't matter unless the difference between the candidates is 1 vote. Heartflowers

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Post: #26
RE: Every vote counts! Who are you voting for?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 12:36 AM)
Ron Paul. The other two are bastards. Other than that I will not be voting.

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Post: #27
RE: Every vote counts! Who are you voting for?
Currahee  Wrote: (04-10-2012 08:12 PM)
Rock the vote!

Every vote counts!

Let your voice be heard!



So who are you voting for? Ttpcmasm



Cause to me it's a sham and a ruse to make us think we have choice.

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Peace

Here’s another of those quiet, subtle, but very dangerous little stories that has somehow slipped past all the mainstream media outlets.

The United States of America has a brand new private VOTE COUNTING company that the Obama administration has personally handpicked.

The company is called Scytl and it is based in Michelle Obama’s most favorite vacation spot, Barcelona, Spain.

Forget the fact that Barack is once again providing jobs for people in another country; there are much bigger fish to fry in this story.

According to the “About Us” section of the Scytl website:

Scytl is a worldwide leader in the development of secure solutions for electoral modernization.

Scytl was formed as a spin-off from a leading research group at the Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona. This group, funded by the Spanish Government’s Ministry of Science and Technology, has pioneered the research on e-voting security in Europe since 1994 and has produced significant scientific results, including 25 scientific papers published in international journals and the first two European Ph.D. theses on electronic voting security, by Prof. Joan Borrell and Scytl’s founder Dr. Andreu Riera (in 1996 and 1999, respectively). This research group also participated in the first Internet binding election in Europe (i.e., the 1997 election to the Presidency of the IEEE IT Spanish chapter).

Scytl has customers both in the private and public sectors. Some of these customers represent leading references in the electoral modernization market (e.g., governments in Spain, the USA, France, Austria, Switzerland, United Kingdom, Philippines, Argentina, Mexico, Finland and Australia) and are pioneering new electronic voting applications. Scytl’s solutions have been successfully used in multiple projects worldwide, some of which represent breakthrough projects for the electoral modernization industry.

So what does this mean for all us non-European voters here in America?

According to Michael Savage, “[T]his critical component to a free election, the transparent tabulation of votes, will not be handled by individual precincts but by a company over which we will have little control…The problem is that once the votes are merged, it will be impossible to go back and check their integrity at the local level. It is very likely that this is the final step in Barack Obama’s corruption of the voting process. It has the promise of enabling him and his cohorts to control the outcomes of federal elections with no accountability. On top of that it’s one more step toward a global government.”

There are no Americans on the Board of Directors of Scytl—but CEO Pere Valles once lived and worked in Barack’s old stomping grounds, Chicago. From the Scytl website:

Mr. Valles joined Scytl in March 2004 after spending most of his professional career in the United States. Prior to joining Scytl, Mr. Valles was Vice-President and Chief Financial Officer of GlobalNet, a NASDAQ publicly-traded telecommunications company headquartered in Chicago. Mr. Valles assisted GlobalNet in becoming one of the leading providers of Voice-over-IP in the world and was instrumental in the successful sale of the company to the Titan Corporation, a NYSE defense company. At GlobalNet, Mr. Valles was responsible for designing and executing the strategic plan that led to an increase in revenues from US$ 25 million to over US$ 100 million and brought the company to profitability. Previously, Mr. Valles had worked as Senior Manager for KPMG‘s Mergers & Acquisitions group in Los Angeles and Miami providing financial and strategic consulting services to private equity groups and corporations involved in acquisitions in the United States, Latin America and Europe. During his career at KPMG, Mr. Valles actively participated in more than 20 transactions in the telecommunications and technology areas. Mr. Valles has a bachelor degree in Economics and a bachelor degree in Law from the University of Barcelona and a MBA (summa cum laude) from Indiana University.

In 2008 the Florida Department of State looked into using Scytl’s remote voting system but turned it down. Their reasons:

Our findings identified vulnerabilities that, in the worst case, could result in (i) voters being unable to cast votes, (ii) an election result that does not accurately reflect the will of the voters, or (iii) disclosure of confidential information, such as the votes cast by a voter. The extent to which these vulnerabilities could actually be exploited in the ODBP is beyond the scope of this report given our lack of system context. Secure handling and audit of the Voter Choice Records may defend against some or all of these vulnerabilities, but these procedures were not available for review.

We identify three findings of particular significance:

The use of supervised polling stations provides significantly better protection against voter coercion or vote- 
selling than is present in some other absentee voting systems, such as voting by mail.
Two copies of each vote are stored: one electronically, and another on paper as a Voter Choice Record. This pro- vides redundancy that is not present in existing vote-by-mail systems. If the electronic votes are well-protected, then they can enable audit of the paper records in ways that are not currently possible.
After casting their ballot, each voter is given a receipt that is intended to give voters confidence that their votes were “Counted as Cast”. These receipts do not achieve their stated goal of allowing voters to “independently verify that their ballots have been correctly accounted for.” These receipts might indicate that a vote was received and decrypted by the county (a property not typically provided by current postal voting systems), but they do not provide assurance that the voter’s vote was correctly recorded.

Also interesting to note, one of the organizations on “Scytl Partners” tab is Oracle, a major supporter to all-things-Democrat. And another Scytl Partner is a spooky “global governance” organization called Gov2u.org. Check them out. Yikes.

There are many, many reasons for all of us to be concerned about Obama’s choice in vote-counting this November—yet no one seems to be up-in-arms about this other than Michael Savage and a handful of Internet bloggers.

When law is made meaningless for some, law becomes meaningless for all.
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Post: #28
RE: Every vote counts! Who are you voting for?
RP/AN 2012

otherwise No Vote

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Post: #29
RE: Every vote counts! Who are you voting for?
Thanks Janus, good reply. I'd like to add that Presidents are chosen, not voted in. The two party system is two sides of the same bad coin. The illusion of choice.
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Post: #30
RE: Every vote counts! Who are you voting for?
I threw my vote away from this planet and summoned another dinosaur rule planet.

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