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More photos of US soldiers posing with dead bodies
ButtonsAren'tToys
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Blitzkreig
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Post: #77
RE: More photos of US soldiers posing with dead bodies
This is what happens when empires go to war to rape other lands for resources and riches.
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Michael Alan Keith
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Post: #78
RE: More photos of US soldiers posing with dead bodies
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-19-2012 08:38 PM)
Link?
Buster  Wrote: (04-19-2012 08:32 PM)
The pics were published by the LA Times. I think that is one of the few publications in America not controlled by the CFR.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/18/...s-20120418
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Post: #79
RE: More photos of US soldiers posing with dead bodies
akhenaten  Wrote: (04-19-2012 08:09 PM)
I'd like to see how many folks that post about the military on this board have ever served. Just curious to see where the dynamic is within the groups of service-types vs non-service types.
My nephew was murdered by one of those
returning Iraq-war vets.

Shot my nephew point blank
in the head, because he was called in to help free the
guy's girl friend, before he could kill her for
breaking up with him.

I work with two military men. They told me they absolutely
would shoot on American civilians and completely agree with
bringing the war on terror back home.

Also, we-the-people get the bill for these wars and suffer the
consequences of these evil actions. All the black pigeons
will come home to roost right here, so what does it matter
if we are veterans, or not? The only difference is that the
veterans usually stick up for their statist fraternity brothers
and don't remember anything in their oath about the constitution.
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ButtonsAren'tToys
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Post: #80
RE: More photos of US soldiers posing with dead bodies
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-19-2012 09:19 PM)
akhenaten  Wrote: (04-19-2012 08:09 PM)
I'd like to see how many folks that post about the military on this board have ever served. Just curious to see where the dynamic is within the groups of service-types vs non-service types.
My nephew was murdered by one of those
returning Iraq-war vets.

Shot my nephew point blank
in the head, because he was called in to help free the
guy's girl friend, before he could kill her for
breaking up with him.

I work with two military men. They told me they absolutely
would shoot on American civilians and completely agree with
bringing the war on terror back home.

Also, we-the-people get the bill for these wars and suffer the
consequences of these evil actions. All the black pigeons
will come home to roost right here, so what does it matter
if we are veterans, or not? The only difference is that the
veterans usually stick up for their statist fraternity brothers
and don't remember anything in their oath about the constitution.

bullshit on the second story - co-workers. I'll give you a "maybe" just for the benefit of the doubt, but in all of the military I know, I don't know one single one of them who would think like that. You must be lucky.

the first story sounds like one of the stories from the expose' that Rolling stones did about a company outta Fort Carson. If your nephew was in fact killed by one of those that the story reported about, it's truly a shame and a very sad story. It is not however, the norm.
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LoP Guest
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Post: #81
RE: More photos of US soldiers posing with dead bodies
What was the governments response to the murder?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-19-2012 09:19 PM)
My nephew was murdered by one of those
returning Iraq-war vets.

Shot my nephew point blank
in the head, because he was called in to help free the
guy's girl friend, before he could kill her for
breaking up with him.

I work with two military men. They told me they absolutely
would shoot on American civilians and completely agree with
bringing the war on terror back home.

Also, we-the-people get the bill for these wars and suffer the
consequences of these evil actions. All the black pigeons
will come home to roost right here, so what does it matter
if we are veterans, or not? The only difference is that the
veterans usually stick up for their statist fraternity brothers
and don't remember anything in their oath about the constitution.
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04-19-2012 09:35 PM

 



Post: #82
RE: More photos of US soldiers posing with dead bodies
Pentagon In Damage Control Mode After LA Times Publishes Photos Of Soldiers Posing With Dead
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/vi...o_id=18566
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LoP Guest
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04-19-2012 09:43 PM

 



Post: #83
RE: More photos of US soldiers posing with dead bodies
The response to the murder was exactly what you might
expect. Since the politicians support the police and
support the military, they just put on one hell of a funeral
to honor the fallen policeman and forgot it had anything
to do with the training of young people to kill another
human being at point blank range.

The police fraternity doesn't forget these things though.

Now it's their problem and they know it.
They probably can't link the problem with
national policy- but, they sure aren't going to
let trained killers shoot them down one at a time either.
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LoP Guest
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04-19-2012 09:54 PM

 



Post: #84
RE: More photos of US soldiers posing with dead bodies
Zero Point  Wrote: (04-19-2012 12:42 AM)
silversides  Wrote: (04-19-2012 12:07 AM)
U.S. troops posed with body parts of Afghan bombers
An American soldier says he released the photos to the Los Angeles Times to draw attention to the safety risk of a breakdown in leadership and discipline. The Army has started a criminal investigation
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/...2601.story

Seems a lot like Vietnam.
No clear objectives or tasks to perform and the soldiers are falling into a moral malaise.

Yes, exactly, but I don't know why it matters, if they are dead bodies. Soldiers did do this during the Vietnam War, because I saw the pictures. They'd prop a dead guy up and put a beer can in his hand and a cig in his mouth. The soldiers in Vietnam witnessed so much death that they became immune to the carnage around them.

I know my uncle and his platoon came upon a vietnamese woman that had been disemboweled by the Vietnamese for being a traitor. She was tied up naked and her insides torn out with barbed wire wrapped around a piece of wood. It made my uncle so sick to see something like that. They went through hell over there.
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Post: #85
RE: More photos of US soldiers posing with dead bodies
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-19-2012 04:14 PM)
Pentagon Sought to Stop Paper From Using Photos

The grisly photographs of American soldiers posing with the body parts of Afghan insurgents during a 2010 deployment in Afghanistan were the source of a dispute between The Los Angeles Times and the Pentagon lasting weeks.

Two of the 18 photographs given to the paper were published Wednesday by The Times over fierce objections by military officials who said that the photographs could incite violence. The officials had asked The Times not to publish any of the photographs, a fact that the defense secretary, Leon E. Panetta, reiterated on Wednesday as the images spread across the Internet.

“The reason for that is those kinds of photos are used by the enemy to incite violence, and lives have been lost as the result of the publication of similar photos,” Mr. Panetta said at a news conference.

But the newspaper’s editors said that the photographs were newsworthy. “We considered this very carefully,” the newspaper’s editor, Davan Maharaj, said in a Web chat with readers. “At the end of the day, our job is to publish information that our readers need to make informed decisions. We have a particular duty to report vigorously and impartially on all aspects of the American mission in Afghanistan. On balance, in this case, we felt that the public interest here was served by publishing a limited, but representative sample of these photos, along with a story explaining the circumstances under which they were taken.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/world/....html?_r=1

I don't believe they should have been published. There are worse things in life than taking photos with dead people. I've know living family members to take pictures of the deceased at funerals. I do think it's sick though.
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Post: #86
RE: More photos of US soldiers posing with dead bodies
ButtonsArentToys  Wrote: (04-19-2012 09:25 PM)
bullshit on the second story - co-workers. I'll give you a "maybe" just for the benefit of the doubt, but in all of the military I know, I don't know one single one of them who would think like that. You must be lucky.

the first story sounds like one of the stories from the expose' that Rolling stones did about a company outta Fort Carson. If your nephew was in fact killed by one of those that the story reported about, it's truly a shame and a very sad story. It is not however, the norm.


Haven't you heard of a little thing called the NDAA 2012?
It allows people to be arrested and held indefinitely w/o trial by military.

It brings the War on Terror home. Remember DHS too.

They must think there are some terrorists around here.
You are trying to tell us that troops won't fire on terrorists
after fighting their fourth or fifth deployment?

If they believe that 'in-country' insurgents are "terrorists", then
they'll believe that terrorists are here too. This is exactly what they
believe. You just ask your acquaintances if there are terrorists here.

If they say yes, then you know they will follow orders.
And you don't give terrorists trials according to this in-
doctrination.
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Post: #87
RE: More photos of US soldiers posing with dead bodies
pixie1  Wrote: (04-19-2012 12:30 PM)
[quote='Zero Point' pid='3211321' dateline='1334786632']
Do these guys not learn?
Wow, pretty stupid.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/1037...de-bombers

Civility dies in war.

I don't think the civility dies with most. I think many soldiers need to keep their sense of humor to survive and yes they do become immune to the carnage.
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Post: #88
RE: More photos of US soldiers posing with dead bodies
Zero Point  Wrote: (04-19-2012 12:03 AM)
Do these guys not learn?
Wow, pretty stupid.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/1037...de-bombers

Senior United States officials and the commander of international forces in Afghanistan have strongly condemned the actions of US soldiers who posed with the remains of suicide bombers.
Photographs of the men posing with mangled remains, taken by a US paratrooper in 2010, have been published by the Los Angeles Times newspaper.
The spokesperson for US defence secretary Leon Panetta, George Little, has pledged that the perpetrators will be punished.
"Secretary Panetta strongly rejects the conduct depicted in these two-year-old photographs," Mr Little says. "These images by no means represent the values or professionalism of the vast majority of US troops serving in Afghanistan today."
The commander of the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan, John Allen, has also condemned the actions of the soldiers, while the US Ambassador to Afghanistan, Ryan Crocker, has called the photos "morally repugnant".

I bet you would like more pictures like this, huh?

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/gk2ug
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Post: #89
RE: More photos of US soldiers posing with dead bodies
ButtonsArentToys  Wrote: (04-19-2012 09:25 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-19-2012 09:19 PM)
akhenaten  Wrote: (04-19-2012 08:09 PM)
I'd like to see how many folks that post about the military on this board have ever served. Just curious to see where the dynamic is within the groups of service-types vs non-service types.
My nephew was murdered by one of those
returning Iraq-war vets.

Shot my nephew point blank
in the head, because he was called in to help free the
guy's girl friend, before he could kill her for
breaking up with him.

I work with two military men. They told me they absolutely
would shoot on American civilians and completely agree with
bringing the war on terror back home.

Also, we-the-people get the bill for these wars and suffer the
consequences of these evil actions. All the black pigeons
will come home to roost right here, so what does it matter
if we are veterans, or not? The only difference is that the
veterans usually stick up for their statist fraternity brothers
and don't remember anything in their oath about the constitution.

bullshit on the second story - co-workers. I'll give you a "maybe" just for the benefit of the doubt, but in all of the military I know, I don't know one single one of them who would think like that. You must be lucky.

the first story sounds like one of the stories from the expose' that Rolling stones did about a company outta Fort Carson. If your nephew was in fact killed by one of those that the story reported about, it's truly a shame and a very sad story. It is not however, the norm.

Agreed. While that is a terrible story, and my condolences for your loss...I do have to say that this is definitely a PTSD issue. The debriefing/psych eval and decompression phase is almost non-existent. The armed forces shouldn't be blamed on the whole for this person's actions. Blaming the whole for the actions of a few is exactly why we are in the middle-east (well, aside from oil-mongering). I feel that this demonization has taken over the USA due to misinformation (from the media/Govt) and cultural and religious bias. I really understand a personal instance making it hard to not be angry and have emotions that are aimed at a whole group, but the reality is that the actions of one person should not be draped onto an entire group. I served in the Navy with some serious shitbags, but that didn't reflect on the image and honor of the rest of us. Yet, again, I do understand why a I would initially be angry at the whole if someone murdered one of my family or friends.
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Post: #90
RE: More photos of US soldiers posing with dead bodies
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-19-2012 10:14 PM)
ButtonsArentToys  Wrote: (04-19-2012 09:25 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-19-2012 09:19 PM)
My nephew was murdered by one of those
returning Iraq-war vets.

Shot my nephew point blank
in the head, because he was called in to help free the
guy's girl friend, before he could kill her for
breaking up with him.

I work with two military men. They told me they absolutely
would shoot on American civilians and completely agree with
bringing the war on terror back home.

Also, we-the-people get the bill for these wars and suffer the
consequences of these evil actions. All the black pigeons
will come home to roost right here, so what does it matter
if we are veterans, or not? The only difference is that the
veterans usually stick up for their statist fraternity brothers
and don't remember anything in their oath about the constitution.

bullshit on the second story - co-workers. I'll give you a "maybe" just for the benefit of the doubt, but in all of the military I know, I don't know one single one of them who would think like that. You must be lucky.

the first story sounds like one of the stories from the expose' that Rolling stones did about a company outta Fort Carson. If your nephew was in fact killed by one of those that the story reported about, it's truly a shame and a very sad story. It is not however, the norm.

Agreed. While that is a terrible story, and my condolences for your loss...I do have to say that this is definitely a PTSD issue. The debriefing/psych eval and decompression phase is almost non-existent. The armed forces shouldn't be blamed on the whole for this person's actions. Blaming the whole for the actions of a few is exactly why we are in the middle-east (well, aside from oil-mongering). I feel that this demonization has taken over the USA due to misinformation (from the media/Govt) and cultural and religious bias. I really understand a personal instance making it hard to not be angry and have emotions that are aimed at a whole group, but the reality is that the actions of one person should not be draped onto an entire group. I served in the Navy with some serious shitbags, but that didn't reflect on the image and honor of the rest of us. Yet, again, I do understand why a I would initially be angry at the whole if someone murdered one of my family or friends.

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